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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

al_infierno wrote:
StrawberryGuillotine wrote:
Most War Metal (I don't hate it I just think most of the bands sound the same and just rehash the same ideas over and over without much new songwriting)


I mean it's a niche microgenre, that's pretty much the point. That'd be like criticizing Goregrind for being too derivative and all sounding like early Carcass


Goregrind >>>>> war metal tho Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ough wrote:
al_infierno wrote:
StrawberryGuillotine wrote:
Most War Metal (I don't hate it I just think most of the bands sound the same and just rehash the same ideas over and over without much new songwriting)


I mean it's a niche microgenre, that's pretty much the point. That'd be like criticizing Goregrind for being too derivative and all sounding like early Carcass


Goregrind >>>>> war metal tho Wink


Haha, yeah it helps that there seem to be way fewer goregrind bands out there compared to the dozens upon dozens of generic-ass war metal bands like Hellfire Deathcult
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I quit before starting such a Bullshit, i get an Orgasm otherwise or buy some other Tapes from other Labels.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ough wrote:
al_infierno wrote:
StrawberryGuillotine wrote:
Most War Metal (I don't hate it I just think most of the bands sound the same and just rehash the same ideas over and over without much new songwriting)


I mean it's a niche microgenre, that's pretty much the point. That'd be like criticizing Goregrind for being too derivative and all sounding like early Carcass


Goregrind >>>>> war metal tho Wink



But could any gore-grind fuck with War Cult Supremacy? One must ask themselves that question.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hymnsoftheneedlefreak wrote:
Ough wrote:
al_infierno wrote:
StrawberryGuillotine wrote:
Most War Metal (I don't hate it I just think most of the bands sound the same and just rehash the same ideas over and over without much new songwriting)


I mean it's a niche microgenre, that's pretty much the point. That'd be like criticizing Goregrind for being too derivative and all sounding like early Carcass


Goregrind >>>>> war metal tho Wink



But could any gore-grind fuck with War Cult Supremacy? One must ask themselves that question.


Personally, I don't like that record, and actually think it's perfect for this thread to be listed as one of the most overrated albums ever to grace the underground ... so IMO, yes Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hymnsoftheneedlefreak wrote:
Ough wrote:
al_infierno wrote:
StrawberryGuillotine wrote:
Most War Metal (I don't hate it I just think most of the bands sound the same and just rehash the same ideas over and over without much new songwriting)


I mean it's a niche microgenre, that's pretty much the point. That'd be like criticizing Goregrind for being too derivative and all sounding like early Carcass


Goregrind >>>>> war metal tho Wink



But could any gore-grind fuck with War Cult Supremacy? One must ask themselves that question.


I'd argue that at least Reek Of Putrefaction could.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ough wrote:
Personally, I don't like that record, and actually think it's perfect for this thread to be listed as one of the most overrated albums ever to grace the underground ... so IMO, yes Laughing


Damn man, I let out an audible "OOF" reading this! Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ough wrote:
hymnsoftheneedlefreak wrote:
Ough wrote:
al_infierno wrote:
StrawberryGuillotine wrote:
Most War Metal (I don't hate it I just think most of the bands sound the same and just rehash the same ideas over and over without much new songwriting)


I mean it's a niche microgenre, that's pretty much the point. That'd be like criticizing Goregrind for being too derivative and all sounding like early Carcass


Goregrind >>>>> war metal tho Wink



But could any gore-grind fuck with War Cult Supremacy? One must ask themselves that question.


Personally, I don't like that record, and actually think it's perfect for this thread to be listed as one of the most overrated albums ever to grace the underground ... so IMO, yes Laughing



I'm surprised. Really surprised. That thing is probably one of the most savage and violent records to ever grace Planet Stench, along with Damaar.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get it, objectively looking in from the outside, but it's always just been one of those "I've really really tried BUT" records for me.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overrated: the last Varathron record
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Overrated: the last Varathron record

Killer record maybe even their second best, hardly anyone gives a shit, how is that overrated??
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Overrated: the last Varathron record

Killer record maybe even their second best, hardly anyone gives a shit, how is that overrated??

Everyone on this forum seems to praise it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone? Smile Maybe little exaggaration... At least I could not care less about Varathron after Walpurgisnacht.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Varathron were a band that I had pretty much written off but the new album is easily the 3rd best one they've done and was actually worth buying. The majority of people here probably don't care about it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tireheb wrote:
Everyone? Smile Maybe little exaggaration... At least I could not care less about Varathron after Walpurgisnacht.


QFT

the last album is bland. Riding the wave of their live performances doesn’t translate to great new recorded material
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lemegethon wrote:
Marlboro wrote:
lemegethon wrote:
Overrated: the last Varathron record

Killer record maybe even their second best, hardly anyone gives a shit, how is that overrated??

Everyone on this forum seems to praise it.

It's well written and performed, but it lacks the essence of what makes early Varathron great to me. I've had a friend say, "Well, this is the record they would have made back then if they had the resources." I hate when that argument is made. It's very easy to lose that essence or enigmatic quality over 20-30 years. The first two LP's have that doomy, murky quality partly due to production and likely more amateur musicianship. I will say their thrashier demos are a contender for "underrated" though.
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