question about zine prices

avrlabel · Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 3341

Yes thats total truth.Fucking new bands dont use the flyers and all promotion of their music they based on fucking myspace.And I really dont like when I received the Cd-r instead of tape.Yes it still can be founded some good and interesting band that have demo on CD-r but please do it on tape.Yes its hard to dubb 100 tapes ,but show dedication in what you work.

Hellfire Commando · Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 2068 Location: Montréal

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avrlabel · Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 3341

Yes Cd-r easy for shiping but it can be destroyed after two listenings.Thats shitty.

IntoTheAbyss · Guest

Can you name a few? I know Blood Ceremony is one - (back then, I was so excited about the fact that they were canadian doom that I had to interview them) but besides that - I don't see other bands that got popular with myspace. Maybe I'm wrong. Enlighten me please.[/quote]

I think I read an issue of yours (are you one of the editors?), becuase later I felt a bit down becuase of the myspace bands or related contents. That's the same feeling when I read the other new zine called "Thrash Attack". I don't say that this truly sucks or whaterver, but I just feel sceptic when it comes to zines these days that using "too much Internet stuffs"...

I remember that I also didn't like the re-print CELTIC FROST interview in the last "Tales of the Macabre" zine becuase it's already appeared in VFTD website.

Hellfire Commando · Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 2068 Location: Montréal

Kapalika · Joined: 04 Jan 2008 Posts: 2113 Location: Germoney

Just a quick note on the "myspace" problem - one should really NOT equate any band using myspace with "Job For A Cowboy", if you know what I mean.

Playing in a band myself, I was more than sceptical about that platform as well.
In the end, it is just a tool which can be put to good use... think of it as an extension to a website, like a pop-up player.

Of course it attracts some "casual listeners" as well but who cares...

As for the VFTD content being reproduced in Tales...

I also understand that criticism but not everybody has internet access and those features belong on paper I think hehe. Try reading the interview on the toilet for example, haha.
One or two of my reviews I did there also ended up in the recent edition of Necromaniac zine, why not...

IntoTheAbyss · Guest

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Kapalika · Joined: 04 Jan 2008 Posts: 2113 Location: Germoney

Hahah, no, I wouldn´t use any of my zines to wipe my ass - the paper is too shiny and the shit won´t stick, haha! Very Happy

As I said, I understand your opinion even though I am not so strict about that.

By the way, anybody wants to get rid of Voices From The Darkside issues Nr 2 and Nr, 4? Wink

Shadow Kingdom · Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 1280

Endless Morbidity · Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 2108 Location: New York

If you discover a band through a 'zine, you wouldn't call them a MySpace band. But how many 'zines actually exist these days and how many actually read them? There is a bit of a foolish fatalism in writing a band off just because your first introduction to them was through MySpace. I found Portrait through MySpace and decided to write a short article on them. Why? Because I'm almost certain very little has been written about them in print and I felt that was a shame.

But I do understand some take this MySpace shit too far and are basically whores with it. I do know some bands, if not most, wouldn't be shit without it too.

I also dislike when there is www.whatever.com all over a fanzine. I decided for mine, that I will only include email addresses for bands. I didn't want to do even that at first, but I felt like it was an inconvenience for the bands not to and limiting for them.

I do feel "the underground" is dead and basically just being play acted by most people, but I don't see this as an excuse to take part in nonsense like MySpace, webzines, ect.

I've taken down the short-lived page I had for EM, will include no web addresses in it and will no longer "promote" it on any forums from this point on. Not because I want to "keep it underground", but because I just want to be an exception at this point and let everyone else bother with being internet scene queens. Enough people have shown interest at this point to where I no longer need to go too public with it.

IntoTheAbyss · Guest

avrlabel · Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 3341

In my zine I really rarely put the web-site as a contact for band.Myspace contacts I will never put in it.Just snail and e-mail address.

Endless Morbidity · Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 2108 Location: New York

Yeah things are more accessible, yet I bet a band like Deathspell Omega sells less records than Blasphemy did during the 90's. Even with all the mainstream press they have gotten and wide distribution.

I heard "Fallen Angel of Doom" sold thousands in only it's first week of release.

These new people don't buy records, they download them. There is no underground anymore and there isn't such a thing as being big today. There is a difference between being "big" and being commercial garbage. But today,anyone can throw up a MySpace page and become "big" over night. It's all meaningless.

Underground arguments mean nothing today. I've come to learn the people who champion it the most are more interested in belonging to an exclusive social club than the Metal it's self and values it upholds.