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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:43 am    Post subject: H.P. Lovecraft appreciation thread Reply with quote

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One of the things that makes Lovecraft so distinctive is the horror he finds in the idea of infinitely deep time and space and the knowledge of a monstrously indifferent universe alien to our little world of humanist values. Contemplating it offers 'sublime' thrills, in the old sense of the word: the sort people used to get from gazing at mountains, and now get from reading the likes of Stephen Hawking.

Tentacles and bat wings notwithstanding, the real dark side of Lovecraft is his ethnic hatred: it is jaw-dropping in its intensity and Houellebecq rightly makes no attempt to whitewash it (in fact, from some of his own work, it's evidently something he can imaginatively empathise with). This isn't some unfortunate peccadillo but intrinsic to Lovecraft's vision. Raised in New England, Lovecraft never recovered from the shock of his poverty-stricken time on the streets of New York and it left him with the conviction that in the long run 'sensitive persons' would be trampled by 'greasy chimpanzees'.

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I can't think of a more important writer to metal. Poe and Lovecraft are up there with Blake and Crowley.

Has anyone read this book? Which edition is best?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't even aware this book was out. When I clicked the link on the site it said "Sorry, this product is not currently listed." but just found some copies available on Amazon, all positive reviews. Definitely keen on checking this out, Lovecraft's work is incomparable.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the best HP Lovecraft book to start with?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not abundantly familiar with Michel Houellebecq or his work, but I'm certain that he is not the eminent Lovecraft scholar that S.T. Joshi is. And Lovecraft's 'pantheon' of 'gods' was never intended to be evil, but simply amoral. I've also never fully understood the overabundant criticism of Lovecraft stylistically as a writer. Rarely does he stumble over his own feet, and his style and mannerisms perfectly encapsulate the atmosphere that is necessary to conjure the specific emotions in his stories.

I have been working with S.T. Joshi on what I hope to be a somewhat extensive interview regarding Lovecraft, weird fiction, and atheism for the second issue of The Heretic's Torch, and I also planned on writing a piece or two on various facets of weird fiction, so maybe this book could be a research tool.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a big Lovecraft fan. I haven't read a lot of scholarly work about him but I'm familiar with his biography, and his hang-ups and obsessions are so close to the surface in reading his fiction that I wonder if an academic analysis would even tell me much that I haven't already considered. I'd be interested in checking this out anyway.

I'd definitely say he's the most important author in the world of metal.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BreedingtheSpawn wrote:
What is the best HP Lovecraft book to start with?


He's not really a long-form writer and all his stuff is public domain so it has been rather haphazardly collected in a bunch of different volumes (mostly paperbacks). There's also a couple of superior and more comprehensive collections if you look on Amazon, but they are fairly expensive. I'd say just find a few cheap paperbacks with a lot of his stories in them and start digging. Of his various stories and novellas, you really want to seek out "At the Mountains of Madness," "The Case of Charles Dexter Ward," and "The Shadow Over Innsmouth." I'm also very partial to "Rats in the Walls" (deeply disturbing) and "Cool Air." But he's written lots of good stuff and only a few bum stories, in my view.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BreedingtheSpawn wrote:
What is the best HP Lovecraft book to start with?


'The Call of Cthulu and Other Weird Stories' (Penguin books) was the first book I read by Lovecraft. Has some classic tales inside including the hideous 'Nyarlathotep' which is cult as fuck! Killer notes by ST Joshi too. Cannot recommend it enough.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dalecooper wrote:
BreedingtheSpawn wrote:
What is the best HP Lovecraft book to start with?


"The Case of Charles Dexter Ward"

I'd say that would be a nice start, since it has more of a traditional intrigue/horror story structure while having most of the central lovecraftian elements. Call Of Cthulhu might be a nice start as well. I'd think that At The Mountains Of Madness could result a bit boring for a first approach to Lovecraft.
And yes, certainly Lovecraft's "mythos" weren't about good and evil. His deities represent chaos which can also be understood as the possibility of an order beyond the grasp of human intelligence and its binary conception of the world. I think a lot of people also misses the high humorous content of his writings. Sure, it's not laugh out loud humor, but he certainly had fun taking stereotypes to the extreme and creating situations that were on the verge of being scary or ridiculous. Knowing his ideologies I think it's pretty obvious that while raising serious, interesting subjects the guy was having a lot of fun creating his world. It's pretty funny to see bands like Unaussprechlichen Kulten taking his writings seriously and I even remember reading an interview (I think it was with another band, although it could've been UK) where the guy from the band said that the Necronomicon was real, which is something many people still believe, as silly as that seems.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I started with a collection of his short stories, I believe the book was named At The Mountains of Madness, which is still one of my favorite Lovecraft short stories.

Just about all of his work is really good in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been listening to the The HP Lovecraft Literary Podcast since sometime in mid-2009. These guys actually got me into Lovecraft. Before I knew of him and had some interest, but didn't know where to start and didn't have the patience for the stories I tried first (The Hound, and The Terrible Old Man). If you're not too familiar with Lovecraft, give these guys a shot.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My fave is his long story, The Case Of Charles Dexter Ward. It has been filmed at least twice. The one from the '60s, The Haunted Palace, with Vincent Price and Debra Paget tells only part of the story, but i okay in its campy, corman-atmospheric fashion. The 2nd and superior version is from the '90s, The Resurrected. Goodness knows why neither film uses the framing device of the story, that is the doctor's case files. www.kickasstorrents.com/h-p-lovecraft
The only thing I've read by Crowley ( pronounced crow-lee, like the bird, despite the Ozzy song)is The Book Of Thoth, about kabbala and tarot. The Magician by W. Somerset Maugham is closely based on his first 40 years. His career as an early Himalayan climber is how i first heard of the evilist fatty in England. http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/14257/pg14257.html
There is a silent film version which I have not seen.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favorite writer ever. Total kvlt worship!

If you like Lovecraft, you should also check Thomas Ligotti, specially his book "Noctuary", highly recommended!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'The Thing In The Moonlight', 'Dreams In The Witch-House' and 'The Music Of Erich Zann' with Dreams being my absolute favorite.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BreedingtheSpawn wrote:
What is the best HP Lovecraft book to start with?


the case of charles dexter ward
the colour out of space
shadow over innsmouth
the dunwich horror
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