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Kojiri



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolfsturm888 wrote:
I find it hillarious that people who claim to be black metal are only into stuff that is labeled as, same goes for doom. Concerning black metal, it is NOT a music style but an ideology / philosophy(just compare Mercyful Fate and Beherit or Masters Hammer and Blasphemy...). The same goes for doom metal in my opinion. Though both terms are big fashion(black metal still is and doom metal just became in the past couple years)...


For all the black metal fans who are into it because of the supposed ideology and philosophy behind it, I hope you realize that you picked the philosophical equivalent of a crayon drawing by a 3 year old, especially considering mankind's philosophical predecessors.

Anyway, I think that most people realize that black metal ISN'T a philosophy, but a subculture of semi-like-minded individuals who agree in principal with very basic philosophical ideas written by black sheep philosophers and idealists. The only real constant in the subculture is the music.


Regarding topic. I love both.

Like NWOBHM more than traditional doom metal, but doom mixed with a little fuzzy stoner vibe is right on par for me. Doom/NWOBHM crossbreed is the king.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ this ^
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Lord Summerisle



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MassDoomFan wrote:
Doom Metal that I dig:
Trouble
Black Sabbath (first 4 albums)
Saint Vitus
Candlemass
Solitude Aeturnus
Pale Divine
blood Farmers

Maryland doom!!

Pentagram
Against Nature
REVELATION
INTERNAL VOID
THE Obessed
Asylum/Unorthodox
Internal Void
Iron Man (Al Morris is God!)

new bands:

Anguish
Cardinal's Folly
Serpent Venom
lord Vicar
Procession



Olde English Doom Metal.
http://www.facebook.com/Blackmagiciandoom

Touring with Serpent Venom in the works for june. LP also coming in June.
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SkullKrusher



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a really big doom metal fan. Some of my favourite bands of the genre are always mentioned. In the other hand, I never was "really" interested in NWOBHM. I only listen to the classic stuff, Maiden, Venom, Angel Witch etc.
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quillotine



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NWOBHM = THE BEST
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msp666



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doom Metal? Great! I love this genre. So many great bands e.g. Solitude Aeturnus, Revelation, Saint Vitus, Trouble, Sorceror, Mirror of Deception, Las Cruces, Last Chapter, Blood Farmers, Officium Triste, Skepticism, Thergothon, Novembers Doom, Ataraxie, Forsaken, Esoteric, Mournful Congregation etc. etc.

NWOBHM - some great bands and releases in this genre as well. problem I have is theamount of releases that get labelled as NWOBHM but turn out to be nothing more than boogie rock etc.
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The_Elite



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

msp666 wrote:

NWOBHM - some great bands and releases in this genre as well. problem I have is theamount of releases that get labelled as NWOBHM but turn out to be nothing more than boogie rock etc.


That's because the NWOBHM was a movement and not a genre.
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doomedplanet



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first time I got to see Sabbath was during the Dehumanizer tour when they were in Oakland. What an amazing show I'll never forget. I think it was the last show on the tour, the next gig was in the LA area when Dio left and Rob Halford filled his spot for that 1 gig.

MassDoomFan wrote:
I would say dehumanizer is there best album after the MOB rules.
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blodhemn9



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kojiri wrote:
Wolfsturm888 wrote:
I find it hillarious that people who claim to be black metal are only into stuff that is labeled as, same goes for doom. Concerning black metal, it is NOT a music style but an ideology / philosophy(just compare Mercyful Fate and Beherit or Masters Hammer and Blasphemy...). The same goes for doom metal in my opinion. Though both terms are big fashion(black metal still is and doom metal just became in the past couple years)...


For all the black metal fans who are into it because of the supposed ideology and philosophy behind it, I hope you realize that you picked the philosophical equivalent of a crayon drawing by a 3 year old, especially considering mankind's philosophical predecessors.

Anyway, I think that most people realize that black metal ISN'T a philosophy, but a subculture of semi-like-minded individuals who agree in principal with very basic philosophical ideas written by black sheep philosophers and idealists. The only real constant in the subculture is the music.


Regarding topic. I love both.



Spot on.
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mlotek



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't like one of the best riff albums ever made
Tygers of Pan Tang "Wild Cat" LP..

Kill Yourself..

NOW

this also applies if you dislike RAVEN's first 3 LP's and dbl live
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Iron Lord



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New Dave Slave, if anyone gives a fukk...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucxqLk97Yso
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mithrandir



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

surprised I missed this topic when it was fresh,

I probably listen to, and pay attention to, Doom (in particularly Traditional) more than any other genre of Metal these days
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mithrandir



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and here's a few of my unashamedly pretentious lists on Doom:

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheTrueMithrandir/top_50_traditional_doom_metal_albums

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheTrueMithrandir/top_50_other_doom_albums

hit me up on RYM if you're there
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Törrmentor



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love The Lamp!
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Necrologue



Joined: 02 Nov 2011
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I respect doom and heavy metal, but I don't listen to much of it. Traditional bands like Saint Vitus, Pentagram, Iron Maiden, and Mercyful Fate. Modern bands like Cathedral, Electric Wizard, Reverend Bizarre, In Solitude, and Uncle Acid & the Deadbeats. That's really as far as I go...

... yeah, I don't even dig Black Sabbath. I apologize in advance.
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