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Weltering in Blood



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Solitude wrote:
Damn, sounds like a real interesting read. Too bad it's not in English.


I think it'll come eventually. The chapters on Bathory and Dead are really good. What's funny to read is how everyone, almost literally, turned their backs on Euronymous, even childhood friends like Necrobutcher. All shit talking him. Hellhammer seems the worst for it. The guy seemed like a bit of a show boater and dreamer but he was still really just a kid. I'm one of those people who think Mayhem isn't Mayhem without Euronymous so maybe that colours my point of view. Still...

I've only read a handful of chapters, the one on Nifelheim, Watain, Bathory and Dead. Still lots to cover
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last ever interview with Jon Nödtveidt is the best thing about this book. Overall the book is very interesting and good but the one chapter with that gender study approach almost ruins the whole thing. I mean, they actually went to interview (mostly) random female fans about how it was to be a girl/woman in the 90s Swedish metal scene. "Now let's see, we have these chapters on Kvarforth, Nifelheim, Nödtveidt, Watain, Bathory, hmmm, I'm sure a chapter on female fans would sit quite nicely with those!"
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korpinen wrote:
The last ever interview with Jon Nödtveidt is the best thing about this book. Overall the book is very interesting and good but the one chapter with that gender study approach almost ruins the whole thing. I mean, they actually went to interview (mostly) random female fans about how it was to be a girl/woman in the 90s Swedish metal scene. "Now let's see, we have these chapters on Kvarforth, Nifelheim, Nödtveidt, Watain, Bathory, hmmm, I'm sure a chapter on female fans would sit quite nicely with those!"


Well, this is Sweden. It wouldn't be that without a good dose of feminism.

By the way, if interested, I found the court's judgement on Jon and 'Vlad'. It's an interesting read. None of them come out of it looking too good.
http://www.mediafire.com/?1f9fpghuf8pszz7
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The UK is such an angry little island, whhen I was young we (metalheads) used to fight with the 'trendies' over a patch of city centre that we called our own. But the sttitude in general over here is fucked, if I could leave I would.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korpinen wrote:
The last ever interview with Jon Nödtveidt is the best thing about this book.


That's a great chapter. In hindsight, it puts a lot of things in perspective I suppose. Overall it's a great book. Probably the best one on the whole subject I've read so far.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wikishitpedia says: In the Swedish metal book Blod eld död ('Blood Fire Death', an allusion to Swedish band Bathory's fourth album Blood Fire Death), his brother said in an exclusive interview that Dead was bullied in school and one day the beatings got out of hand causing the ruptured spleen.[4] He had to be rushed to a hospital, where he was for a time clinically dead.[5][2] After this near-death experience he became enthralled with death and dying.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

great book, best metal related book i have read. large parts of actually interesting info.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fireblackfire wrote:
Wikishitpedia says: In the Swedish metal book Blod eld död ('Blood Fire Death', an allusion to Swedish band Bathory's fourth album Blood Fire Death), his brother said in an exclusive interview that Dead was bullied in school and one day the beatings got out of hand causing the ruptured spleen.[4] He had to be rushed to a hospital, where he was for a time clinically dead.[5][2] After this near-death experience he became enthralled with death and dying.


Somebody with the book: translate it and post it here, please.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope this book gets translated soon.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like these derogatory terms "poof" and "poofter". I'm going to start using them... What's the etiquette for when to use each one ?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DeKay wrote:
fireblackfire wrote:
Wikishitpedia says: In the Swedish metal book Blod eld död ('Blood Fire Death', an allusion to Swedish band Bathory's fourth album Blood Fire Death), his brother said in an exclusive interview that Dead was bullied in school and one day the beatings got out of hand causing the ruptured spleen.[4] He had to be rushed to a hospital, where he was for a time clinically dead.[5][2] After this near-death experience he became enthralled with death and dying.


Somebody with the book: translate it and post it here, please.


Yes, that is basically written in the chapter with Pelle Dead ("snart kom det fram att han hade blivit misshandlav av en gäng i skolan så pass illa att mjälten hade spruckit").

That was also the reason why he changed school where he met new friends that were also into Metal like him.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blodhemn9 wrote:
I really like these derogatory terms "poof" and "poofter". I'm going to start using them... What's the etiquette for when to use each one ?


Just don't. Americans shouldn't use foreign slang. It just makes you look like a try-hard.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterott wrote:
DeKay wrote:
fireblackfire wrote:
Wikishitpedia says: In the Swedish metal book Blod eld död ('Blood Fire Death', an allusion to Swedish band Bathory's fourth album Blood Fire Death), his brother said in an exclusive interview that Dead was bullied in school and one day the beatings got out of hand causing the ruptured spleen.[4] He had to be rushed to a hospital, where he was for a time clinically dead.[5][2] After this near-death experience he became enthralled with death and dying.


Somebody with the book: translate it and post it here, please.


Yes, that is basically written in the chapter with Pelle Dead ("snart kom det fram att han hade blivit misshandlav av en gäng i skolan så pass illa att mjälten hade spruckit").

That was also the reason why he changed school where he met new friends that were also into Metal like him.


What more was in the interview?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DeKay wrote:
peterott wrote:
DeKay wrote:
fireblackfire wrote:
Wikishitpedia says: In the Swedish metal book Blod eld död ('Blood Fire Death', an allusion to Swedish band Bathory's fourth album Blood Fire Death), his brother said in an exclusive interview that Dead was bullied in school and one day the beatings got out of hand causing the ruptured spleen.[4] He had to be rushed to a hospital, where he was for a time clinically dead.[5][2] After this near-death experience he became enthralled with death and dying.


Somebody with the book: translate it and post it here, please.


Yes, that is basically written in the chapter with Pelle Dead ("snart kom det fram att han hade blivit misshandlav av en gäng i skolan så pass illa att mjälten hade spruckit").

That was also the reason why he changed school where he met new friends that were also into Metal like him.


What more was in the interview?


It's an entire chapter on Dead, so lots. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked about translation some 5-6 months ago, and this was the reply:
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Sorry for the late reply! We are working on getting the book translated as we speak. I'll try to remember to keep you posted!
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