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morbiddeceiver



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tireheb wrote:
The tape should be white without bodyprint or sticker.


That's what I read online. Thanks for the confirmation.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

$$ wrote:
Seller couldn't tell if it's original or not - Normal white paper, nothing on back - plain black tape (no brand name or anything)
anyone with info's on this one?
Thanks in Advance!



This is a good example of could easily be a bootleg or could easily be "official". This demo in particular was still being distributed in the early 2000s. I know that some places in the US (I think hakenkreuz or somewhere like that) were dubbing and selling copies of it, but they were covers that came from France, and definitely legit.

My copy of this, which I think came from Europe has a black/clear tape and a computer label on it.

It raises the toughest question to answer (which is what this thread is about). Once you get into demos that only have a xerox, with no pro, no color copy, no writing, no numbering, then what truly is an original?

With the instance of the Funeral demo (and many demos with the same lack of professional production) it is kind of a moot point.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding Funeral, if it is original it is certainly not a tape from the first batch.
Those miss the extra track (here added with pen), contain the band address, and have an extra panel dedicated to Euronymous.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just got a huge pack of old tapes today...any info on what this may be?








Ink with the number is now a red spot only....

And just need a confirmation that these are worthless :





Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funestus wrote:
Just got a huge pack of old tapes today...any info on what this may be?



Seen this one somewhere for a couple of times. So, obviously it's a bootleg of some Beherit shows. Can't remember where I actually saw it, but anyway, I think it's not very hard to find. And in my opinion there has been at least a couple of different versions of it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old funeral = bootleg.
Cover and tape should be white.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info! the sound on the 2 is very good and for the price i paid i´m glad i bought them eheh
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Funeral is a boot, I had one like that, it ended into the garbage can.
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Funestus



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean ebay Laughing ?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funestus wrote:
Just got a huge pack of old tapes today...any info on what this may be?


Did you buy it from a greek cunt?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, bought it in a deal with 79 tapes and a couple of lps from an old friend ...but now that you mention he used to buy lots of stuff from there ahahah

Any info on these ones:




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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be nice if this thread began to list out suspect discogs bootleggers / another thread was started to list them out.

Any one deal with

user: jpsirin

Aurea Mello
Av. Jacutinga 242, apto 21 - Moema
São Paulo, SP, 04515-030
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I just paid a decent amount for a Bacchia Neraida - Dionysos CS

Looks like a boot, and he went way out of his way to forge it. Has a double sided color cover and is hand numbered -- but the cover has creases in it that are xeroxed and not actual creases , if that makes sense.

And the tape is on a Maxell 60, which I've heard is how most tapes come from this guy....

His discogs selection and pricing all seems weird -- proceed with caution.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's real??





Some of you have this demo?
What is the sound quality?

thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teschio wrote:
It's real??

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/480859_4529285161932_26505149_n.jpg

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/604035_4529286801973_745776194_n.jpg

Some of you have this demo?
What is the sound quality?

thanks!


The copy I own is identical to this one, so I presume it's authentic. The sound quality is normal, but not too good.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any info about this Mütiilation demo? Bootleg?


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