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BlackMass
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Apart from everything, I honestly feel this "waves subdivision" quite sensless, at least for how it is actually made and conceived.
During the so called 3rd wave (and I would say '96 to '00) big bands started their decline while others started their rise. That's all.
True is that many put a lot of synths, symphonic parts, keyboards, castles and medieval swords and churches in their works but that's not the complete reality after all.
It was just a transition era characterized by those solutions. A trend I'd say.
I miss who is the first to have subdivided the history of black metal in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th.... waves but following this way of thinking where should we be now? At the 6th? 8th? Pointless...
Use the correct words in my opinion.
"waves" should distinguish two different periods while "trends" should characterise the different parts of a period.
By the way this is just my point of view so feel free to skip this post |
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Frozen
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| Feuersturm wrote: | I'm not going to go through 22 pages of this thread right now, but I can't believe someone dissed Obtained Enslavement's Centuries Of Sorrow and Witchcraft on the first page! Oh you, people...
I have really started to like Cryogenic's Celephais (1998) more and more in the past few years. Germany and melodic black metal often times do NOT go well together but this album may be an exception to that rule.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_3veNhLzUE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KJF2UDp1mg
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Obtained Enslavement was an amazing band for sure.
Funny that you mention Cryogenic. The female singer is a friend of mine, but I never got around to listen to it. Will do that now. |
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ADK
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Two more stereotypical albums from that time:
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Feuersturm
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| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| Frozen wrote: |
Obtained Enslavement was an amazing band for sure.
Funny that you mention Cryogenic. The female singer is a friend of mine, but I never got around to listen to it. Will do that now. |
She did a good job on the album! Plus, the production is just right. I mean the sound is thick enough, especially where it counts - the drums. Occasional cheese on the keyboards perhaps, but it goes with the territory.
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UlvhedinGrom
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| Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| ADK wrote: | Two more stereotypical albums from that time:
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Hell, I just wanted to write about Malignant, and I was listening to Mactatus few days ago! |
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BBR
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ADK
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| BBR wrote: | | Forsth |
The WORST(h).
Disqualified Switzerland for the international BM paralympics for several years.
"Mit den Gedanken im nordischen Altertum".... 
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UlvhedinGrom
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| Niden Div. 187, Allegiance... |
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boca
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Yeah, we all agree about Norwegian stuff... here's my choice:
Abigor - Nachtymnen (From the Twilight Kingdom) LP
Bak De Sjv Fjell - From Haavardstun EP
Nocte Obucta - ... doch lächeln die blutleeren Lippen / Begräbnisvermählung demo
Nocte Obducta - Lethe - Gottverreckte Finsternis LP
Paysage D'hiver - Paysage D'hiver demo |
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OldLadyDriver
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About the Isvind dwarf, he's still in Isvind, and doing vocals/guitars live.
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Orpheus
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| BlackMass wrote: | Apart from everything, I honestly feel this "waves subdivision" quite sensless, at least for how it is actually made and conceived.
During the so called 3rd wave (and I would say '96 to '00) big bands started their decline while others started their rise. That's all.
True is that many put a lot of synths, symphonic parts, keyboards, castles and medieval swords and churches in their works but that's not the complete reality after all.
It was just a transition era characterized by those solutions. A trend I'd say.
I miss who is the first to have subdivided the history of black metal in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th.... waves but following this way of thinking where should we be now? At the 6th? 8th? Pointless...
Use the correct words in my opinion.
"waves" should distinguish two different periods while "trends" should characterise the different parts of a period.
By the way this is just my point of view so feel free to skip this post |
If it were possible to interpret the word 'trend' without the negative connotations then I would totally agree with you. |
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Frozen
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| Don't think anyone has mentioned Blot Mine yet? The band consisted of half of Setherial's Nord lineup. Great stuff. |
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Feuersturm
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Yeah those Blot Mines were pretty good. Was also going to revisit the Allegiance albums soon. And just did that with the first In Battle album. That stuff is fierce! Full of little hooks and sharp turns. The Setherial connection is also present with Mysteriis and Otto Wiklund, who did his best drumwork on the first two In Battle albums.
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Frozen
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| Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:51 am Post subject: |
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| In Battle was indeed a savage lot. Good stuff. |
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Sadomizer
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| Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:43 am Post subject: |
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| Feuersturm wrote: | | The Setherial connection is also present with Mysteriis and Otto Wiklund, who did his best drumwork on the first two In Battle albums. |
Absolutely agreed with you!!
Some drum part on the first two In Battle albums are incredible. Completely lost interest on the band when they turn on boring and mediocre death metal sound.
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