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Weltering in Blood
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 Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:40 pm Post subject: Why don't bands/labels reproduce old shirts/records" |
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I mean as close as possible to what the originals were? There's clearly the demand for that but instead we get needless reworks that quite often don't match up the original or in the case of shirts, there's redesigns that just don't look half as cool as the old stuff.
SLAYER is the perfect example. I mean, look at these
http://www.oldschoolmetalshirts.com/home.html
then look at the reprints.
With records, I can understand to some degree, improving things if need be (most often though, it feels like they feel they HAVE to do something to rereleases in order to bring them "up to date"), but shirts? Many of the older designs were done by bands or small labels themselves, I don't know if any merchandising company can realistically own rights to these? |
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global deathrape
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| I only want to wear shirts with slogans and phrases on the back that will totally shock society and stuff, do the old shirts have that? NO! |
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Descension
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I think most of the time, it is because the art files and screens for the shirts are long lost. |
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Candlemass
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| global deathrape wrote: | | I only want to wear shirts with slogans and phrases on the back that will totally shock society and stuff, do the old shirts have that? NO! |
Nothing like "I just told a priest to fuck off" on your shirt to shock society!
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holyhell666
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Candlemass wrote: | | global deathrape wrote: | | I only want to wear shirts with slogans and phrases on the back that will totally shock society and stuff, do the old shirts have that? NO! |
Nothing like "I just told a priest to fuck off" on your shirt to shock society! |
"Do You Want To Die?" written in red across "Reign In Blood" Tour shirt. That one made heads turn I remember |
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Demoniarch
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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The same reason they don't just keep repressing the same album over and over again. Err wait a minute? 
Seriously though... new ideas, new concepts, endless artistic visions etc etc
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="holyhell666"][quote="Candlemass"] | global deathrape wrote: |
"Do You Want To Die?" written in red across "Reign In Blood" Tour shirt. That one made heads turn I remember |
I had that one, and a priest with two guitars rammed into him on the front.
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DSS
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: Why don't bands/labels reproduce old shirts/records" |
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| Weltering in Blood wrote: | | There's clearly the demand for that.... |
In my honest opinion, the demand is there when it is no longer available, in most cases. Look at Mortuus debut LP for example. It was available for the longest time, seemed like it wasn't selling at all. Suddenly it's gone and people are willing to pay triple the price on eBay.
When it comes to shirts it's expensive to print a small number. I've done it before and the cost is not worth the hassle. And when it comes to bigger bands like Slayer most likely their merchandise is printed in larger quantities (thousands is probably the case). A reprint of an old shirt can be risky (for the label in this case). How many old fans still follow Slayer today? It's the younger generation buying their crappy merchandise and that's the targeted audience by the band and management. In their eyes (label/band) they don't think the younger fans will buy an old design of a shirt. |
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ADB
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, the demand isn't really there compared to the hassle of printing and keeping the shirts around in storage for ages while kids by the new designs. Remember, that although older metalheads are usually the most obsessive, there are always way more kids that combined can out-buy us.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| ADB wrote: | | Yep, the demand isn't really there compared to the hassle of printing and keeping the shirts around in storage for ages while kids by the new designs. Remember, that although older metalheads are usually the most obsessive, there are always way more kids that combined can out-buy us. |
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Cacique
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Descension wrote: | | I think most of the time, it is because the art files and screens for the shirts are long lost. |
I guess this is the main reason. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| global deathrape wrote: | | I only want to wear shirts with slogans and phrases on the back that will totally shock society and stuff, do the old shirts have that? NO! |
Hell's Headbangers is the WORST when it comes to that shit. Why do all of their bootleg shirts have to have over-the-top and corny antichristian backprint slogans? I'd love to snag some of those shirts, but I'm not gonna wear that shit. Maybe it'd be cool if I was still 12. The most mind-boggling is their Master of Reality shirt- it has "would you like to see the pope at the end of a rope, do you think he's a fool?" on it, which is a cherry-picked line from After Forever- a pro-Christian song. |
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ADB
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Kind of OT, but the second last time Morbid Angel came here they had tour shirts that had "Brutal Music for Brutal Aussies" on the back. I shit you not
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Blood and Thunder
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:30 am Post subject: |
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| ADB wrote: | | Kind of OT, but the second last time Morbid Angel came here they had tour shirts that had "Brutal Music for Brutal Aussies" on the back. I shit you not |
Yeah there was loads of this for that stuff back then. Modern Noise for Modern People, Extreme Music for Extreme People and so on. I don't feel the slogans either...
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Cursed Emperor
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While we're at it, I'll say it again: backprints for shirts are retarded!
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