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Hørus
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:15 am Post subject: |
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Did a trade with him once, got no problem _________________ Sale list (Burzum, DTL, Sunn O))), Darkthrone, Abruptum, Windir, Hellfest, Shining, Fissur, ...) : http://www.nwnprod.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=710004#710004
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flo/thrash attack zine

Joined: 13 Nov 2008 Posts: 834 Location: bavaria/germany
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:31 am Post subject: |
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| Temple of PROSELYTISM wrote: |
ANOTHER RIP OFF CHRISTIAN / MUSLIM / LIAR IS WITCH HAMMER PROD. (THAILAND)
HE OWES ME 50 CDs
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Definitely not, I and tons of other people have traded for many years with him without the slightest problem. He might be a bit slow sometimes, but replies rather quickly to emails...a thing one cant say about you  _________________ www.dyingvictims.com
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Stygian Shadows 'zine
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 1041 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| flo/thrash attack zine wrote: | | Temple of PROSELYTISM wrote: |
ANOTHER RIP OFF CHRISTIAN / MUSLIM / LIAR IS WITCH HAMMER PROD. (THAILAND)
HE OWES ME 50 CDs
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Definitely not, I and tons of other people have traded for many years with him without the slightest problem. He might be a bit slow sometimes, but replies rather quickly to emails...a thing one cant say about you  |
I can agree with Florian! |
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Temple of PROSELYTISM

Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 178 Location: Southamerica
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| Stygian Shadows 'zine wrote: | | flo/thrash attack zine wrote: | | Temple of PROSELYTISM wrote: |
ANOTHER RIP OFF CHRISTIAN / MUSLIM / LIAR IS WITCH HAMMER PROD. (THAILAND)
HE OWES ME 50 CDs
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Definitely not, I and tons of other people have traded for many years with him without the slightest problem. He might be a bit slow sometimes, but replies rather quickly to emails...a thing one cant say about you  |
I can agree with Florian! |
4-5 years of debt is fair time/enough to be called/labelled as "rip off" anywhere... And worst: he already told me few months back when I wrote him that he won't send his parcel "again" because he says it is lost in the postal service and it is not his fault... while we AGREED to send "registered" parcels each other and sending each other tracking numbers after parcels being sent. I never got his tracking numbers and of course never got his parcel, and he already got my parcel...
Do I owe you stuff to both of you guys?
Or it is just you complaining about my slow answers by e-mail?
I don't remember any debt with you and I stood supportive trading THRASH ATTACK zine in MASSIVE way.
Any way, If I owe anything to anyone reading this we can make it clear IMMEDIATLY.
...And WITCH HAMMER PROD. (THAILAND) is still a RIP OFF after 4-5 years!! _________________ ...The Key Lies In The Heart Of Every Star... |
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flo/thrash attack zine

Joined: 13 Nov 2008 Posts: 834 Location: bavaria/germany
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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ok, im obviously not involved in this transaction and dont know who behaved which way etc.
no, you dont owe me anything, like you said i was only referring to the slow email contact...
or rather non existing replies to severakl trade request after the good initial one you have already mentioned. obviously it is not obliegent to arrange any trades with anyone, but at least a negative reply would be courteous.
but thats not important here, just wanted to talk about my positive experience with witchhammer prods. _________________ www.dyingvictims.com
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Temple of PROSELYTISM

Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 178 Location: Southamerica
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| flo/thrash attack zine wrote: | ok, im obviously not involved in this transaction and dont know who behaved which way etc.
no, you dont owe me anything, like you said i was only referring to the slow email contact...
or rather non existing replies to severakl trade request after the good initial one you have already mentioned. obviously it is not obliegent to arrange any trades with anyone, but at least a negative reply would be courteous.
but thats not important here, just wanted to talk about my positive experience with witchhammer prods. |
Ah ok. No problem at all my friend. Most of my silence is due many activities, few money, and too much chaos... but I am trying to change this all, and turn PROSELYTISM into something less dissapointing for everyone, you know due my lack of communication with everyone, including my personal life, but never rip off.
My old accounts used to COLLAPSE full of requests and spams most of the time. I am not that good dealing with technology... but things are changing.
You are lucky that guy didn't break his oath, for me he is just another christian / muslim / atheist / etc. _________________ ...The Key Lies In The Heart Of Every Star... |
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Vega360
Joined: 15 Sep 2007 Posts: 403 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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+++++ RIP-OFF WARNING +++++
Piotr Bysiek/Death Dealers Association
PIOTR BYSIEK
UL. GOŁASKA 15/23
30-619 KRAKOW
POLAND
pioter101@gmail.com
I think our losses were a trivial 5 CDs, but I think someone else lost a bunch more from this guy. Disgrace to Polish scene, stopped responding to e-mails, and then shut his website down. Physical noise propaganda (see here) that will make a bunch of internet warriors bitch has been made and will be distributed within the underground to make the world understand that this label has the audacity to actually care that people follow through with the agreements they make with us. Unlike others this label does not fuck around and will not wait years or make online postings such as this one "Dude you owe me stuff from about a half a year ago. I just bought all your new releases, please send all that stuff with the old stuff you owe us", maybe now people will learn this. _________________ www.wintersolaceproductions.com
www.facebook.com/wintersolaceproductions
http://www.youtube.com/user/wintersolaceprod
http://vinlandss.wordpress.com/
http://ilsakoch.wordpress.com/ |
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F.N.
Joined: 14 Feb 2013 Posts: 32
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Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| Donīt trust in AncientRecords. Ordered, paid, nothing. Wrote e-mail, nothing. The only thing he did was making statements obn his website how busy he is and blablabla. There are enough people that didnīt got the package nor a refund. So, fuck it! Why running a label if Iīm not able to handle it? |
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.aske
Joined: 24 Oct 2012 Posts: 229
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:15 am Post subject: |
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Dennis Freiberger of Kneel Before the Master's Throne (KBTMT).
He ripped many of us off for the Ketzer pic disc. Avoid this scum on Ebay, as well. |
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DTBRex

Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Posts: 2184 Location: Arktogäa
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| F.N. wrote: | | Donīt trust in AncientRecords. Ordered, paid, nothing. Wrote e-mail, nothing. The only thing he did was making statements obn his website how busy he is and blablabla. There are enough people that didnīt got the package nor a refund. So, fuck it! Why running a label if Iīm not able to handle it? |
Can't complain about Ancient Records, because I always got what I paid for.
Speaking of, why don't you ask for a refund through PayPal (if you have paid with it to begin with, ofc) if your order does not show up within 45 days (that's the deadline for filing a complaint there, if I am not mistaken?) since payment? _________________ Solitary Elitism:
www.darker-than-black.com
Death Camp:
www.black-metal-mailorder.com |
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BreedingtheSpawn

Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 1216 Location: Cobra Island
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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A non payer on Discogs to avoid, here is the info:
Username: floralbalancheros
juan
8225 nw 68th st
miami, fl, 33166
United States
Phone: 786-472-8264 _________________ Well black metal doesn't really go in that group... at all.... Black metal is all witches and warlocks and graveyards....
We are finally free from gods or men who claim to be. |
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lordoftherim
Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Posts: 2421
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Fallen_Empire
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Vega360
Joined: 15 Sep 2007 Posts: 403 Location: USA
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Xeniteia

Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 1025 Location: South-Eastern France
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| DTBRex wrote: | | F.N. wrote: | | Donīt trust in AncientRecords. Ordered, paid, nothing. Wrote e-mail, nothing. The only thing he did was making statements obn his website how busy he is and blablabla. There are enough people that didnīt got the package nor a refund. So, fuck it! Why running a label if Iīm not able to handle it? |
Can't complain about Ancient Records, because I always got what I paid for.
Speaking of, why don't you ask for a refund through PayPal (if you have paid with it to begin with, ofc) if your order does not show up within 45 days (that's the deadline for filing a complaint there, if I am not mistaken?) since payment? |
I never got a LP I ordered from him in December, but after sending him an e-mail, he told me he'll send another one. I haven't it in hands yet, but I'll give him some time more since my mail is from last week.
Anyway, he may have bad luck or something since this kind of problem happen very rarely in my case. _________________ Scrutare et vide quia propheta a Galilaea non surgit!
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