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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:33 am    Post subject: "Black Metal in the White Tower" thesis Reply with quote

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Metal-White-Tower-Contemporary/dp/1300382503/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1362234474&sr=8-13#_

Stumbled across by accident. Anyone know anything about this?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Amelia Ishmael


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This thesis engages with the recent international discourse of Black Metal theory to imagine an art history of Black Metal. It identifies Black Metal as a significant subject matter and referent in contemporary artworks by three American artists- Grant Willing (b. 1987), Terence Hannum (b. 1979), and Banks Violette (b. 1973)-and explores how Black Metal's presence is signified across artistic media by spaces that are formless, undefined, seemingly empty, or void.


Rubbish. Someone should tell students to stop writing thesis papers about the music they listen to from their iPod while the professor is lecturing...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DTBRex wrote:
Rubbish. Someone should tell students to stop writing thesis papers about the music they listen to from their iPod while the professor is lecturing...


Indeed. But like with stupid kids where the parents are to blame, here it is the professors who actually accept such crap as a (whatever) thesis.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet not a single person on this forum has actually read it (I for one certainly haven't).

So you're not going to get any worthwhile answers.

ETA: Googled the three "artists" mentioned. Very boring, all of it, not worth looking up.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADK wrote:
DTBRex wrote:
Rubbish. Someone should tell students to stop writing thesis papers about the music they listen to from their iPod while the professor is lecturing...


Indeed. But like with stupid kids where the parents are to blame, here it is the professors who actually accept such crap as a (whatever) thesis.


Exactly, and that's why he have plenty of that in Germany alone. Inasfar as "analyzing" a fringe subculture such as Black Metal could ever be deemed a meaningful contribution to any science whatsoever, this is beyond me.

Needless to say, that "analyzing" is not scientific to begin with. It's just students writing down their own point of view and selling it as groundbreaking "news" to an audience completely alien to/unaware of Black Metal in the first place. Oh and they found out Black Metal too is a "youth scene", what a surprise! Mad http://www.jugendszenen.com/

Rubbish, as I said.

The most retarded example (from Germany, at least) might be this "antifa"-clown Martin Langebach. He used the pseudonym Christian Dornbusch to write a book about "right wing extremism in Black Metal":
http://www.amazon.de/dp/3897718170

And as student, he wrote a thesis about Black Metal per se:
http://www.amazon.de/dp/3836414139

Guess what - this guy was quoting himself (but as Christian Dornbusch) in his own fucking thesis! This is so stupid, but hey - he's now an "expert" on "right wing extremism in Black Metal", giving lectures and writing more books and what-have-you. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Black Metal is, historically, an extreme and experimental underground Metal music subculture, formed during the late 1980s in Norway...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The usual "social sciences" crap: Filling up pages about completely different concepts that are somehow "related" according to some "theory".

@DTBRex: "Eine qualitative Analyse", haha. He surely is an expert and insider on that scene, indeed! Maybe he would be better off with some statistics, sourced by Metal-Archives.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that these books are annoying and mostly shit, but Banks Violette does some really good art. He also did a collaboration with Thorns some years ago. Lots of good artists are bad writers with stupid minds though.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Critical theory writing is usually horrible and worthless. For a good analysis of subcultures in general that doesn't make any attempts to understand metal or any other specific subculture, read some Dick Hebdige.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bullshit indeed. Anyone ever tried intellectualizing porno gore grind for an MA thesis I wonder....?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wrote an essay on the image of watain for one of my uni courses. am i therefore an expert on the image of watain?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black metal books, movies, thesis, documentaries, etc are fucking gay and worthless. No support!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thesis is probably more about analyzing the artists mentioned and putting their work in context with Black Metal and its aesthetics... like how it influences their output - so it deals with art (or "art", it is all subjective anyway) primarily - not the music itself.

That doesn´t exclude the possibility that the author´s grip on the musical side is superficial.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is the most comical bullshit I have ever fucking heard. Someone should execute this faggot for real. "recent discourse in black metal theory" GO FUCK YOURSELF. This simultaneously casts shame on black metal and academia, which really doesn't need any help sinking that ship. So fuck off now days faggots.

edit: didnt realize it was a girl. faggot > whore, slag, etc.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've got to have a pretty lofty opinion of yourself to self-publish your art history thesis. She should hook up w/ 'ol Triple H and hold another symposium.
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