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THY CATAFALQUE Ultra-Limited 2xLPs!
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Blood Music



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought we had discussed, but it's a mild blur now, as I'm dealing with 50 e-mails a day at minimum, sometimes 100. If you have a gripe about a specific order (which is not related to this record), then I would think it could be dealt with privately. For instance, if there is a way to sort it out, there is a partial refund possible, depending on logistics at this point.

Two Finns were upset about the cost locally (basically to get angry with us about how the webshop acts is to get angry at a robot), and I'm working it out with both of them.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angry with you? I am angry with you.

For making a mere handful of copies for Thy Catafalque (and all your releases for that matter) that cost an arm and a leg to buy, and even so, because of the small amount of copies, not giving people a good chance to get them.

You press vinyl because you want a copy for yourself. Fair enough, but it's a real shitty excuse to make vinyl. If you're going to do this thing, do it right. I understand you don't want to swim in vinyl in your bedroom, but look into distribution. I'm sure there's at least 1 north american distro willing to do it.
Not to mention other European distros that would be happy to.

And to end my rant here, I'm sick of this current trend and mentality, of selfish people, so called label owners, that make vinyl pretty much for themselves, and press just enough to cover the cost of having some albums for their own amusement.
Sure, it's a free world, and some albums don't have to be pressed in large quantities, but you, my friend at Blood Music, have to understand that the albums you choose to press, are quite sought after by more that 150 people. So, if there's some hard feelings, you have to excuse and understand.

Peace.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note: The Crypt charges $30 for a 2xLP that comes in a run of 500, when we're charging $29 for a 2xLP that comes in a run of 150?

And, I just looked through the front page of NWN's shop. Antediluvian Euro pressing DLP at $27 (not sure of run, but more than 150, I guarantee). Mitochondrion in a run of 500 as well, coming in near the same price.

Not only that, but we make sure of logistics to at least locate stock in USA and Europe, and that costs a fucking fortune to do, over and above what labels are normally doing.

Lots of bands are happy and eager to work with us because we pay extra special care and attention to the music and art. And this shit sometimes takes 60-80 hours of work per week, records gestating over the course of 6 months or more.

EDIT: The reason why we charge in USD from one shop and EUR from the other? 24% Finnish taxes, AND we lose money in the currency conversion from USD to EUR.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not contesting your hard work here. I know it's hard work.
But isn't it a shame that all this effort doesn't really benefit anyone but you and a really small group of collectors?
It benefits you because you get your copy(ies) for your collection. And another 100-150 people, some of them will flip their copies or extras.

How does this benefit the artist? It doesn't.
Aside from the small group that know Thy Catafalque, wouldn't it be great if some more people got to know their music on this beautiful format? But that can only happen if these releases are a little more available and properly distributed.
Remember, vinyl people often buy vinyl on a whim too, but only if it's available and priced right.

The more you make, the cheaper they get, the more they are available, and the artist gets more recognition.

Otherwise my friend, there's no reason for pressing such great music in such small quantities. It's useless for the artist, and for everybody else.

You might as well put that 10.000 Euro into a do-it-at-home vinyl cutter, and make your own vinyl at home, then rub it into everyone's faces, how you have one of a kind pressings. It's the same thing.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blood Music wrote:
Hello, our storefront that works through GZ (NOT Pirates) allows pressing in count of 100. Some parts are minimum 250 (covers), but you can always pay and reject to receive the extra.



Hello, you said the plant "allows pressing in count of 100," but the OP says there are 150 available copies of each title.

Are you saying that you paid for the production of more than 150 copies (presumably 200) of each title, but are purposefully limiting the number available to 150?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They will press 100 or more.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah OK, thanks. I've never heard of this band and am not interested in these releases, but might potentially be interested in other releases sometime down the road. I thought you were being shady, however, which would make me not want to support this label--good to see that's not the case.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't have to do with the numbers in increments, they just have certain minimums that they don't want to do to do any work, which is understandable. In order to ring up a job and hire their workers for your project and/or use their machines, there is a certain minimum that should be done and paid for.

So, for vinyl manufacture (at least where we're going), it's 100 minimum.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I support Blood Music. You guys are efficient, fast, and your packaging rules. I've only picked up the Ihsahn release so far, but it was a great transaction. You told us exactly when it was going on sale, the quantity released, and the price. I much prefer that over guessing when something is coming out, or when endless delays to release an album aren't communicated.

At first listen, I didn't really think I'd like Thy Catafalque, but the first track you posted grew on me.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just thought I would chime in as well. I 100% support Blood Music. There are several reasons why but one of the main reasons is because of their quality. I don't know how many times I have bought new vinyl in the past from very well known labels and the quality has been shit. Clicks all over the place and very cheaply made covers. Some people may say that it is all about the money and how much something costs...me I prefer quality over quantity. Every vinyl I have ordered from Blood Music has been quiet in the grooves, with no surface noise whatsoever. This means a shit lot to me. I would rather pay a bit more and have a quality release. I could give examples of how many new vinyls I have purchased that have sounded shit but at the end of the day I don't want to piss people off.

The guy that runs Blood Music is an upstanding guy, and very reasonable. He is not in the profit business, but is dedicated to releasing stuff that you cannot find on vinyl. Quantities may be limited but you cannot release more if you don't have the finances. You have to go with what you can afford.

Anyway....I 100% support them as I value quality over quantity. They are a small label trying to bring gems that are not available on vinyl. At least they aint making shitty bootlegs that are not authorised by the band and charging ridiculous amounts. Anyway rant over and no offense.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, nothing but support for Blood Music. His quantities may be low but the quality is unquestionable. I'd rather the guy press 150 amazing looking and sounding records than 500 mediocre ones. Let's be honest too, 500 or even 250 is probably too much of each for Thy Catafalque. Not everyone can afford to have x amount of LPs lying around for a year or so. Sure you can say that maybe such a person shouldn't release an LP but when the alternative is to not have the recording released on vinyl...I'll take the high quality limited release. That said, we all know that limitation artificially inflates demand (see this piece of shit: http://recordflipper.wordpress.com/2013/02/27/vice-interviews-recordflipper/), but that's not always the labels fault and a repress can rectify this more often than not.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a ton guys! I know most of our stuff is not uber-kvlt and doesn't meet the full criteria for this board, but I love lots of stuff on here and some people on here definitely like what we're doing too.

Thy Catafalque is an incredible band, and we took a huge leap of faith on doing something great for all their records. I gave Tamas full reign to do whatever he wants on them and guided the process, as he said this might be the first time he can remember an underground Hungarian band going to vinyl.

It would be an honor to us and the band if sales go well, as I'm deeply in love with this music and would also really like to dip into pressing their early catalog.

Thanks for support, I know it's not possible to please every one all the time.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I talked with a friend who do the same business as you do, and he was surprised by how much you spent to get your 450 copies.
These 10k aren't only production costs, there must be some heavy rights to Season of Mist or other owners, isn't it ?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thy Catafalque materials are live for order!

http://www.blood-music.com/store
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite the anger over limitations, there are still copies of everything everywhere for these ... the autographed versions are sold out or nearly sold out.

But the non-autographed versions are still available.

Perhaps the constant screaming over nothing can stop?
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