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Final Holocaust



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

captainretardo wrote:
I feel like I live on a different planet than you mofos. Harnessing/Shadows were pretty terrible albums, sounding like nu metal/mallcore at times. Can you really listen to "Dead to Me" and say with a straight face that it doesn't completely destroy Harnessing Ruin? If so... lol

"Lol" as you want, sir Retardo, I think it was a pretty good song, and a really good album, even if it was their worst.
Providence, with the exception of that terrible "Contemplation", was good too. Shadows has some excellent tracks such as "The Weight of Devotion", which is a favourite of mine since the day of its release, and Majesty was a major improvement to my ears.

Of course their DoP and HiA majesty will remain untouched for me. And, though I honestly prefer those antichristian themes, I guess it must be boring to spit on christianity after 30 years when some social matters are actually more devastating and apocalyptic indeed nowadays.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree with Retardo, Providence is Immolation's best release since Unholy Cult. Harnessing Ruin and Majesty and Decay aren't bad though.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Final Holocaust wrote:
I think it was a pretty good song


LOL, yous crazy


Final Holocaust wrote:
Of course their DoP and HiA majesty will remain untouched for me.


HiA pissed me off after the 5-year wait because it was so... different. Of course I grew to love it with time, but I still hold an irrational kind of resentment toward it. Still not sure if I like it or FfG more; depends on my mood I guess. I like CtaWB second after DoP, due to its haunting, haunting riffs.


Final Holocaust wrote:

I guess it must be boring to spit on christianity after 30 years when some social matters are actually more devastating and apocalyptic indeed nowadays.


Valid point, I must say.

UnholyCuntz wrote:
Providence is Immolation's best release since Unholy Cult.


Yer goddamned right!

I didn't mean to derail the thread, especially since they're easily one of my top 5 or so fave bands of all time.

All I know is I'm fucking stoked to hear the new one!!!!

(but Shadows/Harnessing/Majesty are turds)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VnholyCvntz wrote:
The best 'mainstream' Death Metal band, hand down. That being said, I don't know what to think of of this, the cover art is shit, and why are they going all political?


Wasn't Harnessing Ruin sort of political at times? I seem to remember thinking that anyway. It's been a while since I read the lyrics, though.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

captainretardo wrote:

(but Shadows/Harnessing/Majesty are turds)


Majesty and Decay was a good album. It has some great songs, like In Human Form and A Glorious Epoch.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VnholyCvntz wrote:
The best 'mainstream' Death Metal band, hand down. That being said, I don't know what to think of of this, the cover art is shit, and why are they going all political?


George Bush, maaan.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eighthplague wrote:
VnholyCvntz wrote:
The best 'mainstream' Death Metal band, hand down. That being said, I don't know what to think of of this, the cover art is shit, and why are they going all political?


Wasn't Harnessing Ruin sort of political at times? I seem to remember thinking that anyway. It's been a while since I read the lyrics, though.


Swarm of Terror-


Call us the Devil
But it's you who holds the darkest heart
Call the weak to arms
Savage words to your savage world

Abusing control... Menacing all

Call yourself the victim
But it's you who walks a vicious path
Call them to the mayhem
For you they'll lay down with the dead

Rabid conviction... uphold the threat

A swarm of terror
Across the land
Spreading sickness to curse the world

Punishing judgment
Will bring the end
Cast the nightmare to take down mankind

A swarm of terror
Across the land
Spreading sickness to curse the world
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Morbid Obesity



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't taken to Majesty and Decay yet. To be fair I haven't spun it enough.
One thing for sure is I miss Alex Hernandez. The drumming is just too "tame".
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Brooklyn Bastard 666



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Immolation do not make bad records.

I am sure this will be awesome.

Good year for Metal so far.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

captainretardo wrote:
I feel like I live on a different planet than you mofos. Harnessing/Shadows were pretty terrible albums, sounding like nu metal/mallcore at times


Shadows was excellent!! - only the artwork sucked ass
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VnholyCvntz wrote:
I have to agree with Retardo, Providence is Immolation's best release since Unholy Cult. Harnessing Ruin and Majesty and Decay aren't bad though.


I agree although I thought Harnessing Ruin was a godawful piece of crap (with the exception of "Swarm of Terror"). I haven't even bothered with Majesty and Decay.

My only complaint with Providence was that the songs were a bit to "compact" instead of epic in the tradition of old Immolation. And the fucking drum triggers....
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last three albums have been not good. I may have had hopes for this one at one point...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm always surprised when people praise Providence like it's some return to the old sound. Always see comments like "Wasn't a big fan of Majesty and Decay, but Providence was awesome". I don't get it. Providence might as well be leftover tracks from Majesty, they're very similar.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dalen wrote:
I am quite satisfied they left shitty productions way behind. Regardless the fact I love how Close to a World Below sounds, their productions over the past many, many years were below mediocre.


So Dawn Of Possession, Here In After and Failures For Gods have a bad production? HAHA.
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Vegeta



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

abomination_virginborn wrote:
Dalen wrote:
I am quite satisfied they left shitty productions way behind. Regardless the fact I love how Close to a World Below sounds, their productions over the past many, many years were below mediocre.


So Dawn Of Possession, Here In After and Failures For Gods have a bad production? HAHA.


Failures for Gods does compared to Here in After for instance..
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