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STI
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| Son of Satan wrote: | | So wait is hellcamp a nazi? I couldnt really understand his stance by reading this? |
Well, covering the Horst Wessel Lied with Order from Chaos and posing with SS-Helmets and all kinds of Swastikas and Skulls brings you quite near the Nazi camp doesn't it? Mr. Keller always denied this by stating that "also Metallica used skulls"
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Mein Kampf is readily available. Maybe not in Germany, but new copies exist all over. Also I don't think Helmkamp's intention was to "win" anybody. |
I know, at least in Germany the original edtions are free to buy, got a very fine marriage edition today, haha... But guess that's not part of the thread...
Well, I you do not want to win anybody you should not release & spread a book and / or found a organisation like the "Heretic Supremacist Brotherhood"
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Mental Bill Funeral
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Incinerator
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| I would also like a copy of this. |
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templedclxvi
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| STI wrote: | | Son of Satan wrote: | | So wait is hellcamp a nazi? I couldnt really understand his stance by reading this? |
Well, covering the Horst Wessel Lied with Order from Chaos and posing with SS-Helmets and all kinds of Swastikas and Skulls brings you quite near the Nazi camp doesn't it? Mr. Keller always denied this by stating that "also Metallica used skulls"
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As far as I know, nazis are pretty much extinct now. i always figured Helmkamp's ideologies go beyond 30s nazism back to the authors who influenced the early forms on nazism on their own right, also more esoteric aspects (the disciplining of one's SELF and the POWER thereof). and what is a better way to picture the militant nature of this ideology than the Third Reich? I, all the political bullshit aside, do find images of soldiers marching under the swastika very awe-inspiring. Does Helmkamp even talk about the idea of an aryan race in his writings at all? |
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nektostiknekromessikk
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| Mein kampf is a terrible book with shitty idea's. It's no national socialist bible, it's basically a mad man ranting about marxism and the evil jew's trying to destroy the white race. How anyone can think this book is great is beyond me. |
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Ihslahm
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I always wondered why no why no one was smart enough to put out an NS compilation called Mein Comp.
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STI
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| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| templedclxvi wrote: | | STI wrote: | | Son of Satan wrote: | | So wait is hellcamp a nazi? I couldnt really understand his stance by reading this? |
Well, covering the Horst Wessel Lied with Order from Chaos and posing with SS-Helmets and all kinds of Swastikas and Skulls brings you quite near the Nazi camp doesn't it? Mr. Keller always denied this by stating that "also Metallica used skulls"
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As far as I know, nazis are pretty much extinct now. i always figured Helmkamp's ideologies go beyond 30s nazism back to the authors who influenced the early forms on nazism on their own right, also more esoteric aspects (the disciplining of one's SELF and the POWER thereof). and what is a better way to picture the militant nature of this ideology than the Third Reich? I, all the political bullshit aside, do find images of soldiers marching under the swastika very awe-inspiring. Does Helmkamp even talk about the idea of an aryan race in his writings at all? |
Guess what the Ast'r Race is suppossed to be other than the Aryan Race 
The correct term Nationalsocialism and not Nazism btw. The term Nazism was coined by jewish sociologists and communist propagandists...
Besides that NS itself goes and will forever go beyond its manifestation in the 1930ies...
His theories to me seem soundNationalsocialism ripped off the Sociopolitical aspects and replaced by Satanic Self-Worship and some theories of Ariosophy added... |
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templedclxvi
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| gotta say something about ANGELCORPSE... the last album is fucking horrible. does anyone else think it sounds purely digital (the drums are just atrocious wanking). kinda funny that in that interview they state they didnt even rehearse at all. IMO for some reason the whole "Inexorable"/Laureano equation makes them fall under the run-of-the-mill-deathmetal band-category with CC and nowadays MA... |
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tomas
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Is this guy really serious about this shit? 
All his political ramblings are outdated... |
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I have the actual Controlled Burn, but I missed out on the Conq Manifesto book. I'd buy the book now if anyone wants to sell it.
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| Ihslahm wrote: | | I always wondered why no why no one was smart enough to put out an NS compilation called Mein Comp. |
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20 Buck Spin
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Actually Nazi is just a shortening of Nationalsozialistische from the full Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. Pretty sure it was not invented by "Jewish sociologists and communist propagandists", though that's a nice piece of propaganda in itself. It's like saying some who shortens Democrats, to Dems has some sort of agenda.
Helmkamp is more social darwinist then NS type if you ask me, despite some people's desire for him to pick a side. The doctrine of social darwinism is constantly attacked by PC morons and religious zealots alike, and is often adapted, incorrectly for the most part, by NS sheep with their own agenda. There's also some elements of radical traditionalism in his writing, but his stance in favor of progress also refutes some of that.
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STI
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| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| 20 Buck Spin wrote: | Actually Nazi is just a shortening of Nationalsozialistische from the full Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. Pretty sure it was not invented by "Jewish sociologists and communist propagandists", though that's a nice piece of propaganda in itself. It's like saying some who shortens Democrats, to Dems has some sort of agenda.
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Complete rubbish that you are spreading here, I am a native speaker of german language, so I know perfectly well, what abbrevations are used in german grammar and language. |
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