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Pete Helmkamp - The Conqueror Manifesto Interview
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

20 Buck Spin wrote:
Helmkamp is more social darwinist then NS type if you ask me,


Any recommended readings on this "social Darwinism?"
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

20 Buck Spin wrote:
There's also some elements of radical traditionalism in his writing, but his stance in favor of progress also refutes some of that.


Radical Traditionalism isn't against progress as such, it's a fairly misguided view people have against the word "Tradition". Progress is usually seen in a more insular, individual and intellectual way rather than technological though.

IXTAB wrote:
20 Buck Spin wrote:
Helmkamp is more social darwinist then NS type if you ask me,


Any recommended readings on this "social Darwinism?"


Might is Right.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

STI wrote:
20 Buck Spin wrote:
Actually Nazi is just a shortening of Nationalsozialistische from the full Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. Pretty sure it was not invented by "Jewish sociologists and communist propagandists", though that's a nice piece of propaganda in itself. It's like saying some who shortens Democrats, to Dems has some sort of agenda.


Complete rubbish that you are spreading here, I am a native speaker of german language, so I know perfectly well, what abbrevations are used in german grammar and language.


Not really, the origin of the shortening may not be German in and of itself, which I never said (English in fact), but where's your proof that this is specifically coined by "Jewish Sociologists and Communists Propagandists"? And even if that is somehow true, it still means the same thing. It's just a shortening of an extremely long name by people who don't speak German. National Socialist, Nazi, what's the difference? Maybe these days it means something different to people, but originally they were/are one in the same.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skoll wrote:
20 Buck Spin wrote:
There's also some elements of radical traditionalism in his writing, but his stance in favor of progress also refutes some of that.


Radical Traditionalism isn't against progress as such, it's a fairly misguided view people have against the word "Tradition". Progress is usually seen in a more insular, individual and intellectual way rather than technological though.


Didn't really mean to suggest that Radical Traditionalism is steadfastly against Progress, just that Helmkamp doesn't seem to apply to that school of thought so much. It's been a while since I read his book but his views on progress seem geared not just toward the individual but also societal and cultural.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skoll wrote:
20 Buck Spin wrote:
There's also some elements of radical traditionalism in his writing, but his stance in favor of progress also refutes some of that.


Radical Traditionalism isn't against progress as such, it's a fairly misguided view people have against the word "Tradition". Progress is usually seen in a more insular, individual and intellectual way rather than technological though.

IXTAB wrote:
20 Buck Spin wrote:
Helmkamp is more social darwinist then NS type if you ask me,


Any recommended readings on this "social Darwinism?"


Might is Right.

Yeah the Conder version reigns supreme
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Beast wrote:
Skoll wrote:
20 Buck Spin wrote:
There's also some elements of radical traditionalism in his writing, but his stance in favor of progress also refutes some of that.


Radical Traditionalism isn't against progress as such, it's a fairly misguided view people have against the word "Tradition". Progress is usually seen in a more insular, individual and intellectual way rather than technological though.

IXTAB wrote:
20 Buck Spin wrote:
Helmkamp is more social darwinist then NS type if you ask me,


Any recommended readings on this "social Darwinism?"


Might is Right.

Yeah the Conder version reigns supreme


Who the fuck illustrated the 14 Word Press version? Looks like it was done by a 14 year old retard with a hard-on for Vikings.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skoll wrote:
The Beast wrote:
Skoll wrote:
20 Buck Spin wrote:
There's also some elements of radical traditionalism in his writing, but his stance in favor of progress also refutes some of that.


Radical Traditionalism isn't against progress as such, it's a fairly misguided view people have against the word "Tradition". Progress is usually seen in a more insular, individual and intellectual way rather than technological though.

IXTAB wrote:
20 Buck Spin wrote:
Helmkamp is more social darwinist then NS type if you ask me,


Any recommended readings on this "social Darwinism?"


Might is Right.

Yeah the Conder version reigns supreme


Who the fuck illustrated the 14 Word Press version? Looks like it was done by a 14 year old retard with a hard-on for Vikings.


so basically the same people who buy into this stuff? Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

probert wrote:

so basically the same people who buy into this stuff? Laughing


You've read it?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sure, years ago. i remember being excited by it at the time.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Controlled Burn is a great read.
NS??? Hahahahhaha.............
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there in the USA you have a quite distorted vision of what fascism and national socialism were. Educated (?) by a moralistic and bigot mentality, american people has a inauthentic knowledge of what these political movements were. Of course, also most of europeans have such a distorted view. But in the USA you have stupid racist movements that have nothing in common with fascists european movements.
The cultural basis of italian fascism weren't racist, but socialists, revolutionary and futurists, plus a strong influence of Nietzsche. National socialism was never about "white supremacy", instead it was about difference and identity creation-preservation. So it comes with eugenethics. "white supremacy", "white power" and such things came from the anglosaxon world, stricly connected with WASP mentality and (economic) colonialism. In fact, only the USA have such idiots of KKK and similar, in Europe and else where these empty heads have no place, because we have history and culture coming from millennia, you don't (no greeks temples, no roman ruins, no castles, no fascist architecture). You had a great author called Francis Parker Yockey, but I think no one knows him, and everyone knows such jews of KKK and rednecks. People that rode only scholar "history" books and never studied something else, never visited european cities and historical places. So, they know what "American history X" and films alike tells them, and they do the same like monkeys. And who believes these bullshit isn't that different or more free I think. Often americans think that history and culture can be only seen with american eyes and mentality, but this is absolutely wrong, also for the fact that until 1945 (at least), Europe was still a leading continent on the world.
Anyway, what Helmkamp's writing follows with great fidelity the writings of authors like Nietzsche, Spengler, Junger and so on, that were all important pillars of the culture of the so called Konservative Revolution. I think mr. Hemlkamp isn't a "nazi" in the american way of meaning, but he thinks and writes like a classical european fascist. You should read the "Philosphy of the force" (Filosofia della forza) by Benito Mussolini (written years before he founded the fascist party) so you would comprehend what I say. Discipline, strenght, martial order, will etc. are all concept important to the fascist movement. Not "white supremacy" or something similar...

of course, if someone still cries on the victims of WWII should change kind of music...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't want to create a new thread but is there anyone out there who is willing to part the Conqueror Manifesto book? Anyone know if Pete has any copies left?

I'm interested in reading his stuff.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone know an approx number on how many copies of the manifesto and controlled burn pamphlet are out there?

i saw the controlled burn pamphlet go for $40 the other day
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ihslahm wrote:
I always wondered why no why no one was smart enough to put out an NS compilation called Mein Comp.


Well, not exactly NS, but it has been done: http://www.discogs.com/Various-Mein-Comp/release/1828103
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a different note....What is Pete up to as far as music? Kerasphorus died to early. Interested in what he comes up with next.
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