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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:20 am    Post subject: Thrash Reply with quote



Looking for other collectors of 1980s thrash and its 2009 comeback. Bands like:

* DRI
* COC
* SOD
* MDC
* Cryptic Slaughter
* Fearless Iranians From Hell
* Chronical Diarrhoea
* Dead Horse

I know you're out there. Glad to see the genre returning in a new form.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love old Thrash, probably because I am old Laughing

I have some cool Dead Horse stuff I've collected I should post photos of - posters, shirts, etc. They apparently have a DVD coming out soon. The first Fearless Iranians from Hell 7" was classic. And growing up, DRI was one of my favorite bands, still are. How about Dr. Know? I used to see them play all the time.

Have you checked out Pasadena Napalm Division? New band with Kurt from DRI singing, 3 out of the 4 guys from Dead Horse and a dude from Angkor Wat are the band. It's good.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

99% of "New Thrash" can suck it.

Sorry.

I respect Municipal Waste because they started doing it several years before it was cool, but they are a one trick pony with 1 great record, the 2nd one.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brooklyn Bastard 666 wrote:
99% of "New Thrash" can suck it.

Sorry.

I respect Municipal Waste because they started doing it several years before it was cool, but they are a one trick pony with 1 great record, the 2nd one.

This thread is obviously not about Municipal Waste.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been on a raging DRI/Cryptic Slaughter kick lately, and Dead Horse are just AWESOME. Still on search for Horsecore cd...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need me some DEAD HORSE!

...been looking for this CD for quite a while Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Onliest new wave thrash band I care about is Hellish Crossfire
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crossover would be more precise title for the thread I think.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Crossover would be more precise title for the thread I think.


He's using the invented ANUS definition of Thrash. Observe:

http://www.anus.com/metal/about/thrash/
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FallenChrist wrote:
deathster wrote:
Crossover would be more precise title for the thread I think.


He's using the invented ANUS definition of Thrash. Observe:

http://www.anus.com/metal/about/thrash/


Invented?

What word did people use for music like DRI, COC and Cryptic Slaughter back in 1983-1989?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conservationist wrote:
FallenChrist wrote:
deathster wrote:
Crossover would be more precise title for the thread I think.


He's using the invented ANUS definition of Thrash. Observe:

http://www.anus.com/metal/about/thrash/


Invented?

What word did people use for music like DRI, COC and Cryptic Slaughter back in 1983-1989?


I don't know whether or not they called this music crossover or thrash in the 80s, but the ANUS definition is certainly more narrow than what was used back then. I've seen plenty of old zines refer to Kreator as thrash, yet somehow ANUS doesn't. Besides, I find it funny that six of the eight bands you listed were also in Prozak's list of eight bands.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't know whether or not they called this music crossover or thrash in the 80s


OK, so you admit you are ignorant and do not know the facts of the situation.

That's all I need, thanks! BTW, thrash = thrasher = skater = hybrid metal/punk before a record company invented the term "crossover" for DRI.

Learn your history and you won't get owned like this again.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: Thrash Reply with quote

Conservationist wrote:


Looking for other collectors of 1980s thrash and its 2009 comeback. Bands like:

* DRI
* COC
* SOD
* MDC
* Cryptic Slaughter
* Fearless Iranians From Hell
* Chronical Diarrhoea
* Dead Horse

I know you're out there. Glad to see the genre returning in a new form.


Even if I like many of those bands, I wouldnt like to see them coming back. Maybe just some gigs with old line-up and old songs, but not new recordings.

But still I suggest everyone to check finnish Dirty Damage and especially Rytmihäiriö. Rytmihäiriö is a really good example why some bands shouldnt come back... Still I had many nostalgic kicks with Rytmihäiriö "Surman Vuodet - The Homicide Years" CD
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the time (the 80s) there was a lot of confusion between the genre labels. Speed and thrash were interchangeable terms to a lot of people. For some thrash meant just what is commonly called crossover now (the ANUS definition). For others it was a broader umbrella. There's no denying that Metallica, Slayer, and other like-minded, less punk-influenced bands were pretty regularly referred to as thrash even early in their careers.

I'm happy with the evolution of the labels, myself. Now most people accept the following general definitions:

- Thrash is the mostly metal variant that was pioneered and popularized by the Bay Area and German scenes.

- Crossover is the punkier cousin of thrash, or a thrash/punk hybrid.

- Speed metal is the precursor to thrash - less militaristic, with an identifiable rhythmic riffing style. A lot of proto-thrash and post-NWOBHM is now commonly called speed metal.

Yes, it would be historically accurate to put the "crossover" bands under the thrash label, and it would hew closer to the term's origin. But as far as having useful genre names so we can all easily talk about the same things in the same language, these will do. ANUS is fighting a losing battle when it comes to this stuff. Language has a way of evolving and defining itself.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calling a band like MDC thrash is just silly. They are a hardcore punk band pure and simple. Ask Dave Dictor about it, haha!
A lot of the best of this genre is more punk oriented anyway. Larm, Electro Hippies, etc...basically forerunners of powerviolence and the like.
The best of the old stuff is DRI for me, in more modern times I'd say Capitalist Casualties are my favorite. But I agree that calling that stuff thrash metal makes no sense. Would you tell someone who just discovered Exodus that they would probably also like DRI? That's a big leap.

EDIT: @ Conservationist, you are 100% right about the connection skateboarding made between terms like "thrash" and "punk," cheers for recognizing that. At the same time though, as the fellow above me mentioned, these kinds of genre labels tend to evolve right along with the music. It's pretty tough to argue that a term like "thrash" should apply to the same music now that it did in 1985.
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