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Endless Morbidity



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:12 pm    Post subject: Drum Machines and Recording Reply with quote

I've always hated digital recording, drum machines and one-man-bands. But I recently realized that I've been playing guitar since 13 and I am 28 now. It kind of makes me sick to see some people in bands my age celebrating 10 year anniversaries, but whatever.

I've been writing music lately and would like to start recording stuff.

I know absolutely nobody out where I live to that plays Metal, let alone Black Hole/Death SS inspired stuff, so I have little choice but to fuck around with digital crap (for now). With my crap "gear", I'm not in a position really to start seeking out anyone in the city right now.

I want to know a good digital drum machine thing. I am utterly clueless about all of this. Not only do I want to find a good one, but also a free one or at least one I can steal online somehow.

I do have a four track, which I might just use and forget the digital crapola. Maybe buy a crappy bass and record guitar, bass then find somebody to do vocals and drums.

Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cannot help with the original post intent... however I would like to point out a band like Winterblut and try to ease the idea of one man band concepts into a perhaps slightly more acceptable concept for you.

I generally try to avoid one man projects too as it seems arrogant to assume a individual can master every instrument and make a killer recording all on his own, but apparently some can and some can do it well enough to come across as a full talented and creative band.

Maybe you can too ?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try out Superior Drummer with the Drumkit from Hell software.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the general idea is simply to make a demo in the true sense of the word, a demonstration. Which in turn would eventually open doors. To lay down the ideas and "get myself out there", without some foolish audition-tape style nonsense.

I also have somewhat of a clear vision of what I want to do, so joining any ol' band isn't much of an option.

The "one man band" thing is more or less due to circumstance.

If I wanted to play Pantera-type trash, then life would be easy and I could form a band tomorrow afternoon.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYSE wrote:
Try out Superior Drummer with the Drumkit from Hell software.


I was looking into this earlier and it indeed seems to be the best. I downloaded a few programs (like LMMS) and they're crap.

How can I get this program without shelling out the cash?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Endless Morbidity wrote:
NYSE wrote:
Try out Superior Drummer with the Drumkit from Hell software.


I was looking into this earlier and it indeed seems to be the best. I downloaded a few programs (like LMMS) and they're crap.

How can I get this program without shelling out the cash?


Yeah DFH is great, actually sounds more or less like the real thing, but keep in mind you have to use a midi controller and tap out the beats or input them into a piano roll manually (which is kind of a pain in the ass, really tedious and time consuming).

I am not sure that you can get it without shelling out the cash, the thing is the program itself is separate from 40gigs of drum samples it uses, and they install is separate folders, etc. Definitely a cool program, but in my opinion only really worth it for someone who would use it regularly, not just for a few demos at one point, since its kind of a lot of dough.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can download a torrent of both programs. There are pre-loaded beats that you can use to mix and match to put a song together...if you just want to lay down some basic beats, it's extremely easy to use. The DFH (Drumkit from Hell) module has a bunch of pre-loaded metal drum patterns.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can make some killer beats for you
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forget about downloading programs and get yourself something like this:

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have been playing drums most of my life, and learned to play guitar a little later.

when i make songs, i basically record a whole demo for each instrument to play.

i find recording everything myself a lot easier, then showing it to the rest of the band.

it cant compare to playing the song with a full band on full blast though!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The easiest start is making midi drums in guitar pro, uploading it to this site: http://www.hamienet.com/midi2mp3 makin a mp3 out of it.
It's for free and the sound is ok.
If you manage to get "Fruity Loops" (pretty easy to find in the web, filestube is your friend) it has some nice drumkits with natural sounds an in the web you find free plugins a lot. So no need to buy a drumcomputer or so...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Addictive Drums is the best you can get. Sounds very realistic and has lotīs of presets. You need to host it in a MIDI able DWA though... Same as DFH I think. You can adjust every cymbal and snare/bassdrum hit in volume and intensity. You can make it sound very human...

Forget any non software drumcomputer, used one for years. Those are things of the past, and just like VHS tapes they have nothing you will miss.
Only a pain in the ass to program and unflexible as fuck...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wanted to say that you really dont have to find a guy that listens to metal to play drums for you (thats what session musicians are for) , if you are just interested in a demo you can ask any guy who playes the drums to come in the studio and record it for you , just tell him what you want him to play and he will be able to do it
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mate, you live in NY. I'm sure you could find someone for the job. City that never sleeps and all that. Ceremonium isn't together anymore, maybe ask Tom Pioli if he knows anyone.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've a strong disliking for artificial drums in metal.

no sir, i don't like it.
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