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Evilman



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:42 am    Post subject: Flattening warped records ? Reply with quote

Hey there,

Maybe some of you encountered this problem. I have in my collection a stock new record that is unfortunately warped on one side - really not by much, i can actually play it, but it looks like a rollercoaster on my turntable and that bothers me.

It has probably been warped because of external heat, i bought it a year ago during a summer festival, and it has been left in my car during three days... The other ones i bought are fine, but this one didn't make it properly.

Do you have any valid tricks to fix warped records ? I tried to find some solutions, but some looks surreal: to put my LP in a oven at 60° for a couple of minutes frightens me, and it's not the craziest i read Confused

I can't really take pictures of it, only camera i have is not enough to show the damages.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oven is propably the best you can get. Totally DIY.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One day I put a A BLAZE IN THE NORTHERN SKY into the oven, one hundred degree... did not much (no damages from the heat though). Then I simply put it back in the vinyl stack and eventually it gets a bit better 6 months later. But it's still not straight. Good luck. Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll need two plates of clean (and obviously straight) glass between which to cook the vinyl in the oven.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the oven trick really works and doesn't affect the sound ?
I read elsewhere how to do it with the two plates indeed, i have to find some first...

There's also someone who said to do the same thing, put the record between two plates, but instead of the oven, using a heavy bottle to place it in the center of the label, it would eventually works... Sucks i don't have any spare record to try both options first.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really comes down to the type of warp. If it's a sunwarped record, chances are you will not be able to salvage it or at best end up with an "unround" record.
I had good success with this method:
Place the record on top of a large book, put a heavy glass plate over the record, place it in the sun for a few hours. Then take the whole thing inside (as it is, do not take the plate off or anything) and let it cool down overnight. The cooling process is the most important factor here.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine was a sun warped. And as I said... can't bring it back to the original shape.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've successfully flattened records by sticking them in the oven at low temperature for about a minute at a time, then putting them back in a paper sleeve on a flat surface with a book on top. You have to repeat the process over and over though. Doing it a little bit at a time like that is probably safer.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there's a product for this, 2 plates, a sleeve thing and a heating element (i think). my cousin has it and has been fucking with it, doesnt work for shit as far as i can tell, said he has successfully fixed only one record with it. there's so many variables with this sort of thing and the way the record is warped.. there's never going to be a way that works even 10% of the time. anyways, there's plenty of videos on youtube. watch the dj qbert one.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've got a car and its summer where you are, stick them between two flat surfaces, put cinder blocks on it (or something heavy) and let them sit there and get nice and toasty.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What i normally do is to sandwich the lp between 2 heavy hardcover encyclopedias and leave it inside a room under the ceiling. The weather here is perfect for such a task. Mad
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the weight of things on warm records not affect the grooves?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought the warped Mgła - Prescence from NH before the represses came out. and it's gradually become more and more flat in my Expedit.
It's pretty thin though and not perfectly flat.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are effective machines out there to rectify this problem . I had a copy of the Wehrhammer/Armatus split that was severely warped straightened out with one of these said machines and it worked out great. There was a guy on another forum that I was on that had a higher end model that was offering to to the repairs for a fee....this is your best bet..
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend recently tried the oven method after watching a youtube tutorial. Result:

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