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Label Owners: do you press DMM or "lacquer cut"?

 
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Vincebus Eruptum



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:52 am    Post subject: Label Owners: do you press DMM or "lacquer cut"? Reply with quote

From what I read so far for Rock Music DMM seems the way to get a record pressed, especially if you want the highs in the music to be audible... yet the lacquer cut (dont know if thats the eglich term) has a better sound range.

But what about the label owners here? Any good/bad experiences with either of the two techniques?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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FallenEmpire



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strongly prefer lacquer. More "natural" to me.

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especially if you want the highs in the music to be audible...


I've definitely never had a problem with "hearing the highs" from a lacquer cut.

There are a bunch of articles and such that you can read, and then decide for yourself which you prefer:

http://www.pressingvinyl.co.uk/index.php/2014/07/dmm-direct-metal-mastering-lacquer/

http://recording.org/threads/direct-metal-mastering-vs-lacquer-mastering.4557/

http://www.analogplanet.com/content/dmm-or-lacquer-which-better#A2gM4jqdWQOHP9KX.97
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spend the money and get the lacquer made at a specialist. in USA used Salt Mastering in NYC and laquer to press for plating....huge difference in sound better than the plant handling the lacquer cutting. but also...$400+ extra.
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Vincebus Eruptum



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for your answers so far. any more experiences by labels that press vinyl in the EU?
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Saatana Ruumis



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lacquer is the way to go !
But as stated above pay someone to do the mastering and press your lacquer. Because most pressing plants will butcher that part of the process !
And they can turn a really good recording into mud !
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get lacquer mastering for the presses. Come out good so far.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WrestInPiss wrote:
spend the money and get the lacquer made at a specialist. in USA used Salt Mastering in NYC and laquer to press for plating....huge difference in sound better than the plant handling the lacquer cutting. but also...$400+ extra.


Did you order plating through Salt Mastering, too? If so, how much was that?

Aardvark does just lacquers for $209, and they'll combo it was plating from Mastercraft for $479. However, I'm switching to NiPro Optics for the plating process, and it's roughly the same price.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the advantage of NiPro over Mastercraft?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mastercraft is fucking slammed. They were the only independent electroplating place in this entire country for a very long amount of time, so when vinyl is going bonkers like it is now, they're dealing with growing pains. My plant has rejected two recent test presses before even turning them over to me, which has never happened before. I've also never had a direct relationship with Mastercraft, which I do now with NiPro after just a few quick e-mails and phone calls. Everything about these dudes tells me they know what's up and are going to be way better to work with.
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