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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DyingSun wrote:
I have another one, but this may be the wrong forum for this kind of stuff. It's a copy of the Last Days of Humanity - Human Atrocity demo. Someone is interested in trading/buying it, but he told me he only saw these with colored inlays. Can someone help me out?


I have that demo but it has a different cover...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SadisticChris wrote:
Maybe someone here can finally give me an answer. I bought this tape years ago and always wondered if it was legit.
The J-Card looks pro printed with the lyrics printed on the back, the cassette has no writing on it.
Sorry for the shit picture.


My tape is clear without labels, only a small handnumbered sticker on side A. The inlay seems to be the same as yours, a sort of rougher pro printed gloss paper.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fenrirsson wrote:
DyingSun wrote:
Malder666 wrote:
DyingSun wrote:
Does someone have a photo of the original Corpse Crater cassette from Bhaobhan Sidhe? I just bought one on Discogs, but I think it's just a copy.


When i return to my home i will take you a picture of it, as i remember is just a black shell tape.


OK, thanks! I think mine is just a cheap copy.

I have another one, but this may be the wrong forum for this kind of stuff. It's a copy of the Last Days of Humanity - Human Atrocity demo. Someone is interested in trading/buying it, but he told me he only saw these with colored inlays. Can someone help me out?]


Those particular cassettes (and yes, cassette stuff again) were used by several bands from Dutchland. Easy to tell if the cover has been copied from colour (I'm presuming that you mean coloured print, rather than the paper/card being a different colour) as the characters look odd - ie faded or worn, depending on the original colour. In your favour, it is hand numbered though in a different colour...


The hand-numbering is not photo copied, so I already thought this was original. The demo was released with two different covers, but I only found this one with colored paper (not print). It all looks fine to me, but it's rather strange that I cant find this demo on white paper.

Thanks for your help!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recently got my hands on this two versions of Therion demo. Is any of them legit?


This one seems OK, with signs of age wear, but that sticker on the tape is strange, maybe was made later by the owner.


This one in perfect condition, no sign of age wear.
The other things that are bothering me - while cover is sharper it is less detailed than the other. Yeah, sounds strange but it is.
Second - line above "Christofer: guitar/vocals" - looks like a shadow of original cover came out of a copy machine.

Hi-res pics http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img836/9325/z376.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img842/7293/7qsoo.jpg
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would not pay a penny for any of these.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The user "ravn" apparently recently sold/will sell an original Kvist 1994 demo. Did anyone here have the guts to go for it?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feuersturm wrote:
The user "ravn" apparently recently sold/will sell an original Kvist 1994 demo. Did anyone here have the guts to go for it?


I have that original demo, with the full cover, if anyone wants to check it. It'd be a fucker to try and bootleg because the alternative to the original would be painfully obvious.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feuersturm wrote:
The user "ravn" apparently recently sold/will sell an original Kvist 1994 demo. Did anyone here have the guts to go for it?


Seen it too for 140$ or something like that.. Crap I've spent stupid money on tapes, but I wouldn't pay that type of cash for that..

I remember some dude saying he got his for 8$ recently (2-3 months ago), either he was straight bullshiting or the guy that sold is was a dumbass that could have sold it for a lot more and he wasn't aware of that.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DyingSun wrote:
Malder666 wrote:
DyingSun wrote:
Does someone have a photo of the original Corpse Crater cassette from Bhaobhan Sidhe? I just bought one on Discogs, but I think it's just a copy.


When i return to my home i will take you a picture of it, as i remember is just a black shell tape.


OK, thanks! I think mine is just a cheap copy.


This is my copy:




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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ibliss wrote:
Recently got my hands on this two versions of Therion demo. Is any of them legit?


This one seems OK, with signs of age wear, but that sticker on the tape is strange, maybe was made later by the owner.


This one must be from ebay (fire5peter). He sells a lot of bootlegs...
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SadisticChris wrote:
Maybe someone here can finally give me an answer. I bought this tape years ago and always wondered if it was legit.
The J-Card looks pro printed with the lyrics printed on the back, the cassette has no writing on it.
Sorry for the shit picture.


It is legit, mine is exactly like yours and I got from the band directly

Your avatar is funnt btw
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CR99 wrote:
This one must be from ebay (fire5peter). He sells a lot of bootlegs...


Yeah, it is. But he mentions if tape is a copy. This one was described as original.
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That Therion is a bootleg
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lo6o6o6ol wrote:
SadisticChris wrote:
Maybe someone here can finally give me an answer. I bought this tape years ago and always wondered if it was legit.
The J-Card looks pro printed with the lyrics printed on the back, the cassette has no writing on it.
Sorry for the shit picture.


It is legit, mine is exactly like yours and I got from the band directly

Your avatar is funnt btw


Many thanks to you, CR99, and Fenrirsson for the help.

I now know that at a minimum I have a legit inlay and with a tape that was dubbed improperly. Would any of you mind making me a copy? Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Capricornus - "Kein Blut..." promo '95.

Was this just the normal xerox+commercial tape affair?
Got a high contrast xerox with this tape:

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