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Grovslakt



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



Anyone know?
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know if the Pest - Hail to the Black Imperial Hornsign" demos sold by No Colors are legit?
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Colours is known for selling their own self made dubs so I wouldn't count on that.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tireheb wrote:
No Colours is known for selling their own self made dubs so I wouldn't count on that.


Thought so, was just curious because it took them ages to ship those with the excuse that they need to get them from Finland...
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Got this tape from a friend who wanted to clear his tape collection. Would appreciate if anyone could tell if this is legit? I rmbr correctly there was a debate on this release.


Nobody???
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malder666 wrote:


This is my copy:



Thanks! Looks way better then my copy.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geistertanz wrote:
Tireheb wrote:
No Colours is known for selling their own self made dubs so I wouldn't count on that.


Thought so, was just curious because it took them ages to ship those with the excuse that they need to get them from Finland...


Haha, wow Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Azmoth wrote:
HÝrus wrote:
Mysticus wrote:
HÝrus wrote:
manes wrote:
HÝrus wrote:


this is complete garbage


I'll take that as a "No, dear HÝrus, these tapes are not originals".


Ask this guy Horus. He's selling the same Tsjuder demos on ebay right now.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&_ssn=cannibal_apickanmix&_sop=16


His tapes looks worst than mine... Not sure for me, but his are dubs

manes : dubs are more than enough, no garbage here


I have the Atum Nocturnem tape, and it has the same cover. I think I remember seeing the cover in color as the skull has red eyes (it's a picture we could find on the internet very easily, maybe even an animated gif...
I got the tape from Drakkar, 1999 or early 2000, before the Tsjuder CD was out if I remember well... they signed the band so I guess they did their own xeroxed copies of that promo tape. A Carrefour tape... that looks very drakkar productions from this era !

I think the one with red eyes is the (official) CD-R version of that demo.

I have both tapes in non-Drakkar versions, I think I traded them with At War Records back when he released "Atum Nocturnem" or rather a few months later.

Drakkar just put stickers with their own address over the addresses of the labels who originally released those tapes and re-xeroxed them, judging by the picture.

"Atum Nocturnem" is either xeroxed or laser printed on standard paper, but in good quality, with At War Records label info instead of Drakkar, Sony cassette.
"Possessed" is just generic xerox quality, but both sides of the sheet are printed (band pics on the back), with Majestic Union label info instead of Drakkar, generic black cassette.

If anyone still cares let me know, I can post a picture when I get a working camera again.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a demo but didn't want to open a new post for this

What about this:





The matrix looks just like the real deal, but the booklet Confused ...black and white band picture (and slightly different from the original one).

Any idea?


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those pictures don't work.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a new bootleg from Russia, I've seen quite a few copies being sold on Discogs.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



Anybody has this? Most of artwork seems like overly compressed jpg but there are things that are much "sharper". Fex label information and that "Spleen" looks like its added afterwards on it.

Should it really look like that?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anybody has this? Most of artwork seems like overly compressed jpg but there are things that are much "sharper". Fex label information and that "Spleen" looks like its added afterwards on it.

Should it really look like that?


Yes it should, that cover is definately original and the numbering is my handwriting.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cross of Donar wrote:
Valgrinder wrote:


Anybody has this? Most of artwork seems like overly compressed jpg but there are things that are much "sharper". Fex label information and that "Spleen" looks like its added afterwards on it.

Should it really look like that?


Yes it should, that cover is definately original and the numbering is my handwriting.


Thanks, that was fast. But now I'm interested what's the story behind that Spleen. It surely is added afterwards to that coverart. Did the band change the track in last minute or was it titled differently first version?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I remember correct, they changed the title (and thus also the cover) right before I needed the artwork. But it's been over 15 years years, so I could be wrong.
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