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peopleface



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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

excruciation wrote:
I didn't realize this thread existed. I have a box of tapes I bought from a guy in Greece and the tapes are very old but the covers look new. He claims they are original but I definitely think they are bootleg.


Definitely post images. This thread was very useful for me and it's very much appreciated
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

excruciation wrote:
Greece


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morbiddeceiver



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Snark Shark



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

little_raven wrote:
excruciation wrote:
Greece




Laughing
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PanzerGeneral



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

little_raven wrote:
excruciation wrote:
Greece


Funny how certain places are know of doing a certain kind of fraud...
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Deathwish



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you got the tape from the actual artist...then its an original demo.regardless of what tape its on or if it has a cover nor not....

If you are paying stupid money for shit on ebay/discogogs for something that was mailed out to someone else 25 + years ago then you are a fuckin moron.

But ofcourse its the collecting items that matters more aint it? Not the actual MUSIC.
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PanzerGeneral



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deathwish wrote:
If you got the tape from the actual artist...then its an original demo.regardless of what tape its on or if it has a cover nor not....

If you are paying stupid money for shit on ebay/discogogs for something that was mailed out to someone else 25 + years ago then you are a fuckin moron.

But ofcourse its the collecting items that matters more aint it? Not the actual MUSIC.
Today when most music can be downloaded or found on youtube etc. the whole idea of having it on a special/original format seems to appeal to some people. A bit like the letters we talked about the other day. Music is not physical and thus comes the urge (for some people) to have originals or die-hards - because thats as physical as music will ever get. That is the special thing today - format not the music - as it can be heard by anyone, anywhere, anytime. Its just human nature I guess. I do agree with you - BUT a demo can be a demo even if you did not get it directly from the artist. I get what you are saying though.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just cant see the point of having a collection of vinyls that you dont actually play (cos they cum with a download card or you have the mp3 anyway or crap CD version)
A collection of cds.lps,tapes etc that were all bought with the click of a button.
A load of T shirts that were printed 20/30 years before you even heard about the band and from tours you never attended.

Its all pointless.

Flickin through a stack of brand new vinyls and going EBAY EBAY EBAY EBAY ,DISCOGOGS, EBAY EBAY, EBAY in your head when remembering where you got all that stuff from..

#PureFuckinFacepalmageddon
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PanzerGeneral



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deathwish wrote:
I just cant see the point of having a collection of vinyls that you dont actually play (cos they cum with a download card or you have the mp3 anyway or crap CD version)
A collection of cds.lps,tapes etc that were all bought with the click of a button.
A load of T shirts that were printed 20/30 years before you even heard about the band and from tours you never attended.

Its all pointless.

Flickin through a stack of brand new vinyls and going EBAY EBAY EBAY EBAY ,DISCOGOGS, EBAY EBAY, EBAY in your head when remembering where you got all that stuff from..

#PureFuckinFacepalmageddon
Its like football : utter fucking pointless - but I get why people go to see it...
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AngleOffDeeth



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a guy sell me a Raio Negro demo I tape. Instead of the Orange pro printed tape, it was just a white shell with the letter A hand written on it. He states this was direct from Cruentus, but I'm obviously skeptical. Can anyone corroborate (or refute) this guy's story?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone?

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KŽjser ÷ccˇlt



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AngleOffDeeth wrote:
Had a guy sell me a Raio Negro demo I tape. Instead of the Orange pro printed tape, it was just a white shell with the letter A hand written on it. He states this was direct from Cruentus, but I'm obviously skeptical. Can anyone corroborate (or refute) this guy's story?

My experiences with Cruentus has included everything from blank tapes, missing tapes, broken tapes to just overall wrong (in every possible meaning of the word) tapes. So the seller might well be telling the truth. But I do not have a copy of that particular demo, so can't say for sure.
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THF



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crystalspeed wrote:
Anyone?



Bootleg.
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manes



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes it's fake
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CR99



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

100% a bootleg/dub copy. Used to own both Carbonized demos, they have pro printed inlays and white studio tapes, Auto-Da-Fe's inlay is glossy.
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