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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this legit? Seller also says all of the tracks are on one side instead of A/B sides.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blutkvlt wrote:
Is this legit? Seller also says all of the tracks are on one side instead of A/B sides.


Bullshit. Don't remember when I got mine but I think in mid 90's and it's on white pro tape, printed cover and studio/live tracks on separate sides
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, "Sanctus Satanas" is on white hand numbered tape. There should be this silver logo-sticker too. "Studio-side" and "Stage-side" is how the program goes. And that cover shown above looks too pale compared to the real jacket of this JetBlackMetal-masterpiece.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tireheb wrote:
My Nachtmystium tape looks the same. Only that my tape is TDK. I suppose Sombre used whatever he had to make copies.


Mine also looks like that and I'm quite sure it's also original..
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inside the tape lot I got there are some tapes I doubt are original. I know for a fact all of these were bough in the early 90's, but we all know there were some distro's who just produced there own copied versions of demotapes if they could sell those. I'm guessing most of these are 'old distro bootlegs'

Think those might be original: Algol/Cremation/Tumulus (both sided xeroxed)/Irreverent.
Rotting christ has a bunch of livetracks added ("Live in Athens").







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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Humus wrote:
Inside the tape lot I got there are some tapes I doubt are original. I know for a fact all of these were bough in the early 90's, but we all know there were some distro's who just produced there own copied versions of demotapes if they could sell those. I'm guessing most of these are 'old distro bootlegs'

Think those might be original: Algol/Cremation/Tumulus (both sided xeroxed)/Irreverent.
Rotting christ has a bunch of livetracks added ("Live in Athens").

"Satanas Tedeum" was originally released with a pro-printed, glossy three-paneled j-card whereas, based on your picture, it looks like you only have a xeroxed j-card with two panels there. Still, sounds cool with the extra live tracks dubbed on the tape.

"Wrath of the Tyrant" isn't a copy as sold by the band. It was hand-numbered afer all.

All copies of "Realm of the Dark" were dubbed on white studio tapes as far as I know and the j-card has to look much more defined and way higher in contrast. I'd say that's a bootleg as well.

Mmmh, I've had several copies of both Algol tapes over the years, and all came with white stickers and typed band name, title etc on them.

That "Medieval Prophecy" tape looks legit to me. Say, what's mentioned on the sticker, "Into the Pentagram" and "The Third of the Storm", both typed in cap? Btw, Jelle, what's the Samael tape in the first picture?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merciless should be a white tape without any print.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was already pretty sure Merciless was a bootleg (I know people kept this 'in print' for a very long time), thanks for confirming.

Samael: indeed has
INTO THE PENTAGRAM
THE THIRD OF THE STORM
B-side has:
THE DARK
(extensive version) [this is typed in lower case letters)


That second tape, not sure what it is.
A-side has Medieval prophecy with different running order.
B-side has Morbid metal, Knowledge of ancient kingdom & the dark.

So basically it's recordings '88-'89 with one extra track.

I'm sitting here thinking, I know a lot of these tapes originate from San (Bestial summoning/Wimp records). San also made a 'compilation' of Darkthrone demo's which he sold through Wimp records. Maybe this is also something San made and sold himself?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deceased "Birth By Radiation" cover should be yellow.

Exmortis "Immortality's End" cover should be red.

Rotting Christ "Satanas Teduem" should have a glossy cover and hand numbered.

Paradise Lost 'Frozen Illusion" should have a greenish cover w/ print on both sides of cover.
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Inverto Crosso



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damnatory cover should have print on both sides, otherwise it could be the original version, as I got my copy from the band and it was dubbed on a regular cassette also. Disgrace demo had a glossy cover and a white, factory made cassette.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

morbiddeceiver wrote:

Rotting Christ "Satanas Teduem" should have a glossy cover and hand numbered.


my number is printed/stamped?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rotting Christ "satanas tedeum" is not glossy but thick paper/ carton!
Maybe there where made various versions but the one i had from 1991 had a very thick carton / paper and should be slightly yellow by now.

I think 90% of the tape-bunch are boots.

Tumulus has a different tape, Emperor also (though i guess they used whatever possible...?).
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CR99 wrote:
morbiddeceiver wrote:

Rotting Christ "Satanas Teduem" should have a glossy cover and hand numbered.


my number is printed/stamped?


The copy that I got from Jim Mutilator was hand numbered with a pen. It also had a glossy cover. I no longer have the demo.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



Official?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tape should be white without bodyprint or sticker.
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