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Hørus



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote







So, I have these and I am a bit confused.

Both seems original.
First copy (IRR) is indeed signed, has a double-sided pro-cover and has the 2 bonus tracks

Second seems to be a photocopy of the original cover, but made professionaly. And ALSO has the 2 bonus tracks.

I don't understand how the 580 first copies of the demo could have a photocopied cover of one of the last 20, and with pro-tape while the last 20 has a regular tape. SO what's the story ? Is the pro-tape a reissue/repress of the original demo ?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this legit?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170957272187?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy advertised his auction on this site, I asked him to post more pics, especially of the tape, since it's important to see the handwriting. He hasn't done it.

http://www.nwnprod.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34675&highlight=

I don't think it's oriiginal.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mayhem - Deathcrush
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Bootleg !
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OKay, thanks guys! That's what I thought too!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"sent to me in 1989 by Euronymous of Mayhem"....
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CR99 wrote:
Need info on these. I guess they're all the usual xerox+reg. tape affair, but you never know!:

Necrofago - Brutal Mutilation
Masacre - Colombia...Imperio Del Terror
Massacre - Pissing Into The Mass Grave
Rotting Christ - Reh'88 a.k.a Leprosy Of Death
Rotting Christ - Decline's Return


thanks to humus & torn-soul so far.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hørus wrote:






So, I have these and I am a bit confused.

Both seems original.
First copy (IRR) is indeed signed, has a double-sided pro-cover and has the 2 bonus tracks

Second seems to be a photocopy of the original cover, but made professionaly. And ALSO has the 2 bonus tracks.

I don't understand how the 580 first copies of the demo could have a photocopied cover of one of the last 20, and with pro-tape while the last 20 has a regular tape. SO what's the story ? Is the pro-tape a reissue/repress of the original demo ?


It was available for ages in the Prophecy onlineshop, declared as "leftovers" for 9€. Now they have a "repress" for 10€. I think both, the repress and the so-called "leftovers" are the same and they just kept it in print since years to cash in.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some years ago I obtained a copy of Ildjarns "Seven Harmonies.." Demo.
Bought it from Neseblod Recs, who claimed to have gotten it from someone of Mysticum. Seemed legit to me then, considering Neseblods Status.

Now there is this fake Burzum demo circulating which features an Ildjarn song from said demo, including a synth Intro. That intro is said to be made by the bootlegger making the fake Burzum demo.

On my copy, every song has an intro of that kind, one definitley being the one heard here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iO9Axpdne8

Old TDK tape. Cover is as usual, black xeroxed, old looking it is. No writing on the tape.



Does someone know more about this ?

Thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone verify if this is real or not? It has a handwritten label on the other side of the tape.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DARKTHRONE-demo-lot-mayhem-emperor-burzum-immortal-sarcofago-enslaved-merciless-/200867185830?pt=Music_Cassettes&hash=item2ec49e04a6#viTabs_0

This person has some other tapes online for sale as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okkultor wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DARKTHRONE-demo-lot-mayhem-emperor-burzum-immortal-sarcofago-enslaved-merciless-/200867185830?pt=Music_Cassettes&hash=item2ec49e04a6#viTabs_0

This person has some other tapes online for sale as well.


Analyse and conclude.

Look at these 'vintage' shirts he's sold:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/POISON-shirt-vintage-sodom-sadus-bathory-slayer-immolation-venom-into-abyss-/200831397021

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SABBAT-shirt-vintage-abigail-sigh-bathory-venom-sodom-slayer-beherit-impiety-/200831395694

If you want to take a shot with his 'vintage' tapes go ahead...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sadistik Goatfvkk wrote:
Hørus wrote:


So, I have these and I am a bit confused.

Both seems original.
First copy (IRR) is indeed signed, has a double-sided pro-cover and has the 2 bonus tracks

Second seems to be a photocopy of the original cover, but made professionaly. And ALSO has the 2 bonus tracks.

I don't understand how the 580 first copies of the demo could have a photocopied cover of one of the last 20, and with pro-tape while the last 20 has a regular tape. SO what's the story ? Is the pro-tape a reissue/repress of the original demo ?


It was available for ages in the Prophecy onlineshop, declared as "leftovers" for 9€. Now they have a "repress" for 10€. I think both, the repress and the so-called "leftovers" are the same and they just kept it in print since years to cash in.


That's explain a lot I think, thanks for the info !
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okkultor wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DARKTHRONE-demo-lot-mayhem-emperor-burzum-immortal-sarcofago-enslaved-merciless-/200867185830?pt=Music_Cassettes&hash=item2ec49e04a6#viTabs_0

This person has some other tapes online for sale as well.


In my opinion they are all fake
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Humus wrote:
Okkultor wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DARKTHRONE-demo-lot-mayhem-emperor-burzum-immortal-sarcofago-enslaved-merciless-/200867185830?pt=Music_Cassettes&hash=item2ec49e04a6#viTabs_0

This person has some other tapes online for sale as well.


Analyse and conclude.

Look at these 'vintage' shirts he's sold:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/POISON-shirt-vintage-sodom-sadus-bathory-slayer-immolation-venom-into-abyss-/200831397021

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SABBAT-shirt-vintage-abigail-sigh-bathory-venom-sodom-slayer-beherit-impiety-/200831395694

If you want to take a shot with his 'vintage' tapes go ahead...


It is not so long ago when he sold first press of Mutiilation - Vampires... CD too. Now it's for sale again. Maybe deadstock???
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