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Anti-Christian sentiment in the American Metal underground
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Dodens Grav



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:02 am    Post subject: Anti-Christian sentiment in the American Metal underground Reply with quote

Greetings, I was wondering, with the massive collections that some people have here, if anybody had some good interviews with American Metal bands that express a dissatisfaction with Christianity, or religion more broadly. I'm working on a paper for school, and I'm looking for some interview resources, but right now the internet is not turning up much useful information. If anybody knows of any good links to interview transcripts, or even if I can get anybody to actually photocopy an interview, I would greatly appreciate it. I'm thinking of bands along the lines of Morbid Angel, Possessed, Hellwitch, Holy Terror, Satan's Host, etc., older bands preferably. Preferably bands who actually have something intelligent to so and are not laughably immature. And remember, it has to be American bands, and it has to be documentable (year/place of publication, page number, etc.). If anybody could help, I wouldn't be able to thank you enough.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly, you will have much better luck if you use newer bands...the farther back you go in metal history the more idiotic the Satanism sounds...modern bands are far more sophisticated lyrically and philosophically, or at least they are better spoken...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

does it have to be just american band?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a good point...it would also be easier to find interviews, I'm sure. Do you have any bands in mind?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

guitar_Demon wrote:
does it have to be just american band?


Unfortunately, yes, the project is about religious cultural trends in America.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Immolation maybe?
Edit: Just noticed you are looking for links etc, I donīt have anything at hand, sorry.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The older US DM bands I've read/seen interviews with usually have very simplistic explanations. Deicide at least were admitted Satanists where other bands like Death took the "we're not Satanists at all" approach. Deicide openly debated Christian fundamentalists on the radio so those would be documented discussions.

Also, though not metal, Marilyn Manson would have been the most high profile musician to criticize Christianity.

Current US bands on The Ajna Offensive might have something interesting to say, if it doesn't get too esoteric.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Immolation and Incantation just occurred to me as well, I'll have to see if I can find anything from them.

Jacy Catlin wrote:
Current US bands on The Ajna Offensive might have something interesting to say, if it doesn't get too esoteric.


As, yes, good tip, I've already found an interview from Negative Plane. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ajna and Negative Plane aren't anti-religion, so I'd keep them out. If you're looking for the same ol' anti-religion thoughts, go dig up an interview with the imbecile from Krieg or something.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're not just looking for Metal bands, the Boyd Rice vs, Bob Larson debate is among the best things I've ever heard. Makes me laugh every time - you can download it as an MP3 from the Boyd Rice site. Larson gets more and more worked up and ends up making a total ass of himself.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Endless Morbidity wrote:
Ajna and Negative Plane aren't anti-religion, so I'd keep them out. If you're looking for the same ol' anti-religion thoughts, go dig up an interview with the imbecile from Krieg or something.


I'm not sure I know many metal bands who are purely "anti religion". Perhaps some of the punkier bands like Napalm Death (not USA anyway) and Terrorizer. Bigger bands like Morbid Angel, Incantation, Nocturnus, Deicide all had/have religious themes. Master may have been anti-religious?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villains is anti-religious.
Because it is merde.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jacy Catlin wrote:
Master may have been anti-religious?



Didn't Master have christian leanings?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey I didn't write that.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Endless Morbidity wrote:
Hey I didn't write that.


Oh, sorry mate. Just didn't do that quote thing right.
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