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eighthplague
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| NK7 wrote: | | boogs wrote: | | what's up with all that bootlegger bullshit? If you can put the blame on anyone, it's on Plastic Head but not CM. |
Just ignore those comments. Some people here are still crying their eyes out because this isn't getting their beloved "The Crypt treatment" and will blame CM for just about everything, from the hole in the ozone layer onwards. |
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darksymphonies
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| Demoniarch wrote: | I think there is some legit concerns or frustrations here regarding how this all played out, and the person most legitimately affected is the guy from The Crypt.
It could suck to have invested time or money into this already and in the end due to muddy contractual arrangements another label pushes out a product ?
The Crypt has every reason to be upset... and fans of the Crypt to a degree also.
How innocent or in the know CM is over the overall play on this, hard to say... but the frustration in my opinion is not without validation. |
Honestly I'm not a fraction as upset about this as Kristiian Wahlin is as he owns the music and the artwork, and yes CM isn't to blame. It was Plastic Head / Blackend who licensed it to CM and the are the ones who apparently didn't really own the rights to license in the first place. Black Sun sold the rights originally to Plastic head but according to Kristian there was never an actual signed contract between the band and Black sun back in the day.
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scentofdeath
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| NK7 wrote: | | boogs wrote: | | what's up with all that bootlegger bullshit? If you can put the blame on anyone, it's on Plastic Head but not CM. |
Just ignore those comments. Some people here are still crying their eyes out because this isn't getting their beloved "The Crypt treatment" and will blame CM for just about everything, from the hole in the ozone layer onwards. |
You're assuming and you're wrong.
I was only stating the obvious. I could care less who releases it as long as it's in good quality. I bought this one and it sounds great and it looks great.
I'm not pitying The Crypt, because these things happen. Yeah, it sucks but what can you do?
CM has part of the blame because they're big and old enough to know who that material belongs to. Plastichead are twats as usual.
The only one who should care, like Ted said, is K Wahlin. Afterall, it's his music and his art that's being profited from.
BTW, Ted probably bought a copy of this himself.
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darksymphonies
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I actually didn't buy a copy for myself. 
I'd rather save the money and reinvest it in one of my releases. Yeah shit happens but what can you do. I've moved on from it but I do feel bad for Kristian. Hopefully he can get it sorted out. | scentofdeath wrote: | | NK7 wrote: | | boogs wrote: | | what's up with all that bootlegger bullshit? If you can put the blame on anyone, it's on Plastic Head but not CM. |
Just ignore those comments. Some people here are still crying their eyes out because this isn't getting their beloved "The Crypt treatment" and will blame CM for just about everything, from the hole in the ozone layer onwards. |
You're assuming and you're wrong.
I was only stating the obvious. I could care less who releases it as long as it's in good quality. I bought this one and it sounds great and it looks great.
I'm not pitying The Crypt, because these things happen. Yeah, it sucks but what can you do?
CM has part of the blame because they're big and old enough to know who that material belongs to. Plastichead are twats as usual.
The only one who should care, like Ted said, is K Wahlin. Afterall, it's his music and his art that's being profited from.
BTW, Ted probably bought a copy of this himself. |
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Wolfsturm888
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| Why don´t you stick to the original on Dolores Records, sound and layout is killer, who will do anything better there...?! |
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NK7
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| Wolfsturm888 wrote: | | Why don´t you stick to the original on Dolores Records, sound and layout is killer, who will do anything better there...?! |
I'll take a wild guess, may be because that one is sold out since ages and a copy will cost slightly more than $20?
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| NK7 wrote: | | Wolfsturm888 wrote: | | Why don´t you stick to the original on Dolores Records, sound and layout is killer, who will do anything better there...?! |
I'll take a wild guess, may be because that one is sold out since ages and a copy will cost slightly more than $20? |
It's as important for him to let everyone know that he's got the original pressing of Grotesque as it's important for you to let everyone else know that Peter Ott has a Flames of Hell LP and a mustache... |
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boogs
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| metalmac wrote: | | Still no European distro stocks this? |
you need to import from the US. Got mine for about $40 with postage |
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darkdescentrecords
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| boogs wrote: | | metalmac wrote: | | Still no European distro stocks this? |
you need to import from the US. Got mine for about $40 with postage |
Yeah, it's a US only release from CM. I have some still in stock. I'd love to mark them even lower price than what I have them but the price CM is selling (but not shipping to Europe) is lower than what I paid those guys for wholesale just two weeks earlier. Great business tactics.
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captainretardo
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:03 am Post subject: |
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lol, "US only" release.
Is it 1988 again?
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darkdescentrecords
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| captainretardo wrote: | lol, "US only" release.
Is it 1988 again? |
I guess. CM and Nuclear Blast do this a lot. I don't know why they won't ship to Europe...probably a rights thing, then as others have noted, the rights they do have are debatable.
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Mikael
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:12 am Post subject: |
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| Nothing new, even many UG-labels from Europe license albums to US and the license-deal is only local so they (the US-label) can't sell it to Europe even if someone wants to order it or they would break the agreement/deal. I guess it's similar situation here. |
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Kapalika
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Detailed pictures, anybody?
I will most likely stick to my Black Sun digi cd but you never know.
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rare occasion when I'm glad that I live in Russia 
they send it there
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