| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
toxicbreed
Joined: 21 Apr 2011
Posts: 180
|
 Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:19 am Post subject: Re: Info on Order From Chaos - Stillbirth Machine CD (wild r |
 |
|
| Mutilated wrote: | | toxicbreed wrote: | | Mutilated wrote: | Also the matrix is different:
Black: WRR-030 AMERITONE CUSTOM RECORDE 64395SX1 IFPI L601
Silver: DISC MFG, INC (A) W.0 # 70886-1 CSCD-5709
Is one of them some copy perhaps? Would appreciate any info. |
the Black CD has an IFPI code, as I see this album was released in 1992 but IFPI codes started to appear in 1994 so I think that the Black CD is a possible repress or bootleg perhaps?
here you can find more infos on the history of SID-codes (IFPI) https://www.ip.philips.com/licensing/services_and_ordering/Manufacturer_codes/sid_codes.html |
Thanks!
Every Wild Rags release that has been sold (that are included on this site) is the black CD.
http://www.worthpoint.com/inventory/search?query=stillbirth+machine
As i said, i can't find any info or pictures on the silver one. It's like it doesn't exist.
But as you said. IFPI codes started to appear in 94, which would make the black one a repress or bootleg. Maybe this means that the silver one is actually the first press? Maybe that's why you never see it being sold anywhere. |
found a site with scans of the Silver version http://surfacer.egloos.com/1890995
maybe it was released in a very limited quantity and is therefore not so widely spread and known as the black CD? who knows... the best would be of course to contact the label owner and ask him directly |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Mutilated
Joined: 08 May 2010
Posts: 650
Location: Sweden
|
| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:25 am Post subject: Re: Info on Order From Chaos - Stillbirth Machine CD (wild r |
|
|
| toxicbreed wrote: | | Mutilated wrote: | | toxicbreed wrote: | | Mutilated wrote: | Also the matrix is different:
Black: WRR-030 AMERITONE CUSTOM RECORDE 64395SX1 IFPI L601
Silver: DISC MFG, INC (A) W.0 # 70886-1 CSCD-5709
Is one of them some copy perhaps? Would appreciate any info. |
the Black CD has an IFPI code, as I see this album was released in 1992 but IFPI codes started to appear in 1994 so I think that the Black CD is a possible repress or bootleg perhaps?
here you can find more infos on the history of SID-codes (IFPI) https://www.ip.philips.com/licensing/services_and_ordering/Manufacturer_codes/sid_codes.html |
Thanks!
Every Wild Rags release that has been sold (that are included on this site) is the black CD.
http://www.worthpoint.com/inventory/search?query=stillbirth+machine
As i said, i can't find any info or pictures on the silver one. It's like it doesn't exist.
But as you said. IFPI codes started to appear in 94, which would make the black one a repress or bootleg. Maybe this means that the silver one is actually the first press? Maybe that's why you never see it being sold anywhere. |
found a site with scans of the Silver version http://surfacer.egloos.com/1890995
maybe it was released in a very limited quantity and is therefore not so widely spread and known as the black CD? who knows... the best would be of course to contact the label owner and ask him directly |
Yeah that's what i was thinking.
As i wrote earlier. I did contact them on facebook and they couldn't help me. I asked about Richard C, that someone mentioned in the thread and the guy on their facebook said that no one knows where he is. He has been gone for several years. They did say that i could ask Dark Realm Records because they should apparently know more about this. Sent an email to them earlier. Hope they answer.
Haha, this is getting ridiculous  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
surfacer
Joined: 18 May 2010
Posts: 3
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Mutilated
Joined: 08 May 2010
Posts: 650
Location: Sweden
|
| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:12 am Post subject: Re: Info on Order From Chaos - Stillbirth Machine CD (wild r |
|
|
Thank you very much! Now we know that the black one is in fact a repress. So you were right about the matrix code toxicbreed  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
iron tyrant
Joined: 17 Jul 2007
Posts: 2151
Location: ITALIA
|
| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:25 am Post subject: |
|
|
well I thought he was dead, it seems I was wrong, hehe.
_________________
Into the Menstrual Night We Go-o, Hey-Ho, Hey-Ho...
| Professor Black wrote: | | NWOBHM is not a style of music. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
darkdescentrecords
Joined: 25 Nov 2009
Posts: 2296
|
| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:43 am Post subject: Re: Info on Order From Chaos - Stillbirth Machine CD (wild r |
|
|
| Mutilated wrote: |
Yeah that's what i was thinking.
As i wrote earlier. I did contact them on facebook and they couldn't help me. I asked about Richard C, that someone mentioned in the thread and the guy on their facebook said that no one knows where he is. He has been gone for several years. They did say that i could ask Dark Realm Records because they should apparently know more about this. Sent an email to them earlier. Hope they answer.
Haha, this is getting ridiculous |
You're not going to get Richard C. to answer you. His daughter says he doesn't care about anything metal related. His daughter isn't running the Facebook page either...she certainly wouldn't refer you to Dark Realm.
I'll show her this thread but she's about as close to an expert you may get for an answer on this.
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Mutilated
Joined: 08 May 2010
Posts: 650
Location: Sweden
|
| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:57 am Post subject: Re: Info on Order From Chaos - Stillbirth Machine CD (wild r |
|
|
| darkdescentrecords wrote: | | Mutilated wrote: |
Yeah that's what i was thinking.
As i wrote earlier. I did contact them on facebook and they couldn't help me. I asked about Richard C, that someone mentioned in the thread and the guy on their facebook said that no one knows where he is. He has been gone for several years. They did say that i could ask Dark Realm Records because they should apparently know more about this. Sent an email to them earlier. Hope they answer.
Haha, this is getting ridiculous |
You're not going to get Richard C. to answer you. His daughter says he doesn't care about anything metal related. His daughter isn't running the Facebook page either...she certainly wouldn't refer you to Dark Realm.
I'll show her this thread but she's about as close to an expert you may get for an answer on this. |
Oh i see!
Thank you! Interesting to see what she says. If it's the same info as surfacer told us. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MezzoForte
Joined: 03 Aug 2009
Posts: 449
Location: NORCAL
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
wow, so there IS a version of Stillbirth Machine on Wild Rags where the cover art isn't ridiculously askew.
edit:
actually, my eyes deceive. It looks to be about as bad even on the original. ggs Wild Rags.
_________________
ALL SHIRTS MUST GO: http://www.nwnprod.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17489 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
toxicbreed
Joined: 21 Apr 2011
Posts: 180
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: Info on Order From Chaos - Stillbirth Machine CD (wild r |
|
|
| Mutilated wrote: |
Thank you very much! Now we know that the black one is in fact a repress. So you were right about the matrix code toxicbreed |
it was an obvious thing with the SID-code  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
iron tyrant
Joined: 17 Jul 2007
Posts: 2151
Location: ITALIA
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:01 am Post subject: |
|
|
I checked out another copy last night at a friend's house, it's also the 1st press on silver disc - no surprise since he got that around the same time as I did.
_________________
Into the Menstrual Night We Go-o, Hey-Ho, Hey-Ho...
| Professor Black wrote: | | NWOBHM is not a style of music. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
