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3rd wave Black Metal (95-99)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A term that surpasses the "first wave black metal" term in its retardness.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a term used to categorize the generation of bands that came after the second wave (Mayhem, Emperor, Darkthrone, Burzum, Immortal etc.). Should be easy to understand unless you're one of those "labels are stupid" types.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing wrong with that term.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no alternative than to use these terms. Clearly Venom does not sound like Darkthrone who do not sound like Blut Aus Nord, yet most of us would not hesitate in using the term "Black Metal" alongside these names. The essence is there, the execution is different, that's all... the labels 1st Wave, 2nd Wave etc. are fine and do a very good job of making it clear which period someone is addressing.

Only kvlt tards have an issue with genre labels.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think 3rd wave is really a style though. 1st wave bands have their intricacies of primarily all have different approaches to a category of music that would evolve into a 2nd wave. Supposed 3rd wave bands, there is no evolution; it's carbon-copy versions of a 2nd wave sound or style. I'm not saying all black metal post '95 is bad, as some great albums have been pointed out in this thread (GBK, Abigor, etc); A handful of good/creative bands mixed in with boundless others playing nothing unique doesn't constitute a wave in black metal progression; more like the end of the progression if you ask me.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frozen wrote:
It's a term used to categorize the generation of bands that came after the second wave (Mayhem, Emperor, Darkthrone, Burzum, Immortal etc.). Should be easy to understand unless you're one of those "labels are stupid" types.

Don't even bother replying him, that douche is only here to provoke/post controversial stuff for the sake of feeling cool & special.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't think of many favourite albums from this stale period:

TRELLDOM 'Til et Annet...' (totally overlooked masterpiece)
ABIGOR 'Nachthymnen'
DARKTHRONE 'Panzerfaust'
ARCKANUM 'Trulen' / 'Fran Marder'
LIMBONIC ART 'Moon in the Scorpio'
KEEP OF KALESSIN 'Through Times of War' & 'Agnen'
SAMAEL 'Passage'

...all of which have decent album covers as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spectre wrote:
I don't think 3rd wave is really a style though. 1st wave bands have their intricacies of primarily all have different approaches to a category of music that would evolve into a 2nd wave. Supposed 3rd wave bands, there is no evolution; it's carbon-copy versions of a 2nd wave sound or style. I'm not saying all black metal post '95 is bad, as some great albums have been pointed out in this thread (GBK, Abigor, etc); A handful of good/creative bands mixed in with boundless others playing nothing unique doesn't constitute a wave in black metal progression; more like the end of the progression if you ask me.


So you're basically saying that early Dimmu Borgir, Obtained Enslavement, Dødheimsgård, Gehenna etc sounds exactly like the bands that came before them? I beg to differ.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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FOREST (rus) debut. Great album.

Definitely.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all black metal who cares
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frozen wrote:
It's a term used to categorize the generation of bands that came after the second wave (Mayhem, Emperor, Darkthrone, Burzum, Immortal etc.). Should be easy to understand unless you're one of those "labels are stupid" types.

I'm not against labels, but there is no reason to call post 95 bands a wave, especially when they have very different sounds, and no connections with eachother. Norwegian BM wave, USDM wave, retro thrash wave etc are all valid but "third wave of black metal" is an overdone statement.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I understood the OP correctly, it's just an umbrella term to cover everything that came out in the 2nd half of the 90ies. No big deal really.

As already said, the heavy use of symphonic keyboards was a typical trademark during that time. Other "trends" were Black-Thrash, "Avantgarde", the S/M-approach ("Latex Cult", Tsattogghua), all the Viking/Pagan/Folk stuff and also the first signs of depressive-suicidal and NS imagery.

NOT "kult" during these years: Beherit, Blasphemy.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without getting too aspie about terms, "wave" seems to imply a surge of something - creativity or popularity or whatever. All of the 95-99 bands were just the diminishing tail of the second wave for me.

There wasn't any 3rd wave until internet created popular black metal from about 2003 (was when I started noticing a resurgence of interest in BM as a whole).

Things like Hate Forest that used cut & paste structures, and that whole Filosofem-inspired sound that people call shoegazer black metal.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADK wrote:
NOT "kult" during these years: Beherit, Blasphemy.

True. Also nobody gave two shits about classic death metal anymore. You could score for almost nothing all those Bolt Thrower, Megaslaughter, Carbonized, Crematory LPs that now sell for hundreds of $$. Glad I managed to fill several holes in my collection at that time, that's probably the only really good side of the '95-'99 period I can think of.
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