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USPS postage increase Jan 27th
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canada is getting fucked the hardest. I don't think Canadians can get a good rate on any package at all anymore.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fallen_Empire wrote:
One time I listed a tape for $14 and a quantity of 7 when it was the other way around. I would have appreciated if someone pointed out how ridiculous it was right away

Anyway, here we have some answers:



So now it looks like sending 1 tape from USA to EU will be $9.15, and 1 EP will be $12.15, and one LP will be $18.20. There will be a slight price discount for online postage purchases, it seems. This effects light packages of EP and CS the hardest.

You can look further into rates for other services here: http://pe.usps.com/January_2013_Notice_123_SS_v7.xls

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the prices in Norway has gone down quite a bit on international shipping, ironically enough. Even I'm shocked over the new US prices, haha!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actually, I have read that there will be tracking through First Class International with the rate increase. It needs to since I also read that First Class Intl postage will increase 59%.

If this is true I'll be pretty happy to be honest! Having tracking on all international packages would reduce so much of the risk associated with overseas orders that are paid via Paypal.


If it's just the tracking number they put on the package you can't use it, or it will stop functioning at the US border like Insurance does.


Well, I guess we will see. As has been mentioned, the customs numbers for larger Priority Mail International packages (when you have to use the white forms, for packages over 4LBs) are always trackable from the US to delivery in whatever country, at least they have been from my experience. So maybe they'll start using some sort of customs number that will also serve as a tracking number? The customs forms now have to be entered into a computer even on First Class International parcels, so maybe that was a precursor to these numbers being used for tracking too? I guess we'll know in a few weeks!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.usps.com/new-prices.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This should really be stickied and posted on the main website I think, most labels I've spoken to aren't aware of this at all.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NWN PROD wrote:
https://www.usps.com/new-prices.htm

The prices I'm seeing are a lot more reasonable than the ones Fallen_Empire quoted above... am I looking in the wrong place? Where's the prices for First Class International packages?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vorfeed wrote:
NWN PROD wrote:
https://www.usps.com/new-prices.htm

The prices I'm seeing are a lot more reasonable than the ones Fallen_Empire quoted above... am I looking in the wrong place? Where's the prices for First Class International packages?


https://www.usps.com/2013/prices/fcmi-pg-6-9.xls ?? Not sure. Flats = packages?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vorfeed wrote:
NWN PROD wrote:
https://www.usps.com/new-prices.htm

The prices I'm seeing are a lot more reasonable than the ones Fallen_Empire quoted above... am I looking in the wrong place? Where's the prices for First Class International packages?


Yes, they are lower than what he quoted. Here are the links to first class international by group:

https://www.usps.com/2013/prices/fcmi-pg-1.xls
https://www.usps.com/2013/prices/fcmi-pg-2.xls
https://www.usps.com/2013/prices/fcmi-pg-3-5.xls
https://www.usps.com/2013/prices/fcmi-pg-6-9.xls

Glad to see that media mail will still be around for awhile at least!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are flats / letters, these are the prices for Parcels

Retail: https://www.usps.com/2013/shipping/fcpis-retail.xls

Commercial base (online): https://www.usps.com/2013/shipping/fcpis-com-base.xls

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The Postal Service uses the word "flats" to refer to large envelopes, newsletters, and magazines. The words large envelopes and flats are used interchangeably. Whatever you call them, flats must:

- Have one dimension that is greater than 6-1/8 inches high OR 11- inches long OR inch thick.

- Be no more than 12 inches high x 15 inches long x inch thick.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So did anybody reach a conclusion on the price discrepancy?

I still believe the prices I'm linking are the right ones. After looking at the pricing more, its really a 'fixed cost' price increase, where as the price per unit drops drastically very quickly. For example:

Canada: 1 CS = $6.91 but 2 CS = $6.91 or $7.70 depending on weight of tapes
Europe: 1 CS = $8.88 but 2 CS = $8.88 or $11.48 depending on weight of tapes
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats actually a HELL of an increase for a single MC... not sure how you package yours, but I wanna say it costs me around $5.60 (I think) to mail a single MC to europe and thats with cardboard stiffeners taped around the cover inside a 4x7 bubble mailer... obviously even less to canada




*edit* scratch that, I still have a photo in my phone of a single MC packaged just as described going to Norway from back in November. costs on the postage was $4.56, so yeah, thats a MASSIVE increase for just a single MC
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a single MC I wrap it in a 12"x12" sheet of bubble wrap, and fold over once in the front and once in the back for there's a good amount of padding on each side. Then I put it in a lightweight poly bag. Typical weight is 2.8 oz, but I suppose if the tape is a c-90+ or has a poor diet, it could weigh over 3oz with that same packaging. 1 MC to Europe my way is currently like $4.56 or something.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep, same here with the $4.56, so we are looking at prices doubling. global economy my ass!! hahaha. this certainly does not encourage or promote free trade markets
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ordering multiple copies only makes more sense now. I might institute a 'minimum of 2' policy on international orders now for EP/CS.
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