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Wilhelm
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 Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:26 am Post subject: Bands that eclipsed their influences |
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| Bathory is the most obvious one for me. Despite Quorthon's protests that Venom was of no importance to Bathory's lineage it's quite clear that Bathory was Venom-inspired. Still, Bathory eclipses Venom in pretty much every conceivable way sans the locker room level mock-Satanic stupidity. That was Venom's bread & butter. |
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Carlzilla
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Nar Mattaru
I know that some people worship Incantation and Dominus Xul, but I think that Nar Mattaru does it better than either.
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Opolus
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HELLHAMMER...while not literally making VENOM sound like the BEE GEES, they surpassed everything before (or even after, for that matter) them!
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navght
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| Katharsis took all the black magic of old and turned it into the most evil act of all time, and still has not been topped. |
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heavyR
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| navght wrote: | | Katharsis took all the black magic of old and turned it into the most evil act of all time, and still has not been topped. |
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blodhemn9
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| Probably not a popular opinion, but I think Impaled blows away Necroticism era Carcass (which to me sounds like their primary influence). Especially on Mondo Medicale and The Last Gasp. |
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Wilhelm
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| Cannot forget another obvious case - Slayer. Heavier, faster, harder, meaner and 1000 x more genuinely evil than Venom ever was. |
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navght
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| Wilhelm wrote: | | Cannot forget another obvious case - Slayer. Heavier, faster, harder, meaner and 1000 x more genuinely evil than Venom ever was. |
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eighthplague
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| This thread doesn't really work, in my opinion. Any band that's hailed as brilliant probably eclipsed its influences to some degree. Otherwise, no one would bother with rock music after the 50s, or no one would listen to metal beyond Black Sabbath, etc. |
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Wilhelm
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| eighthplague wrote: | | This thread doesn't really work, in my opinion. Any band that's hailed as brilliant probably eclipsed its influences to some degree. Otherwise, no one would bother with rock music after the 50s, or no one would listen to metal beyond Black Sabbath, etc. |
Sure it works. When the norm is bad fan fiction it sometimes helps to put things into context. There are a few rare examples to the contrary, rarer yet are bands who surpassed the originals, and this is what I had hoped we could discuss with this thread. any way... |
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Demoniarch
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Danzig > Elvis
Danzig took the voice but instead of singing about whatever the hell it was Elvis did in the 50's, Glenn sang about demonic evil stuff.
Eclipsed.
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hell_krieger
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| navght wrote: | | Katharsis took all the black magic of old and turned it into the most evil act of all time, and still has not been topped. |
This is correct nothing in this \/\/orld could ever compare to \/\/orld \/\/ithout End. Fourth Reich mindblowing war that leaves staple of chaos within your mind. |
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NWN PROD
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Danzig > Elvis
Carcass > LImpaled
Old Incantation and Immolation > Dead Congregation > Newer Incantation and Immolation
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Jankowitch
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| ARKHA SVA > LLN |
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VnholyCvntz
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| Carlzilla wrote: | Nar Mattaru
I know that some people worship Incantation and Dominus Xul, but I think that Nar Mattaru does it better than either. |
Haha. I really like Nar Mattaru but no way is their album as great as Incantation's first two. They don't even do that style better than their fellow countrymen. I think Godless does the "Incantation clone" sound much better (at least the stuff on their EP) and even they don't come close to early Incantation's greatness.
And yes, I know ''it's all a matter of opinion''.
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