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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AmaLurra wrote:

Nokturnal Mortum = NSBM?

I always perceived them as watered-down NSBM. Did they not once associate themselves with the ideal but as they got more well-known try to distance themselves from the viewpoint?


Aryan Terrorism is NSBM. Nokturnal Mortum on the other hand never was, nor is, NSBM. Perhaps you could say, they were/are "racially conscious Pagans" since you may find references to Pro-White, Nationalist and "völkisch" ideas in their album concepts and lyrics starting with "NeChrist"... That does not suffice to put the tag "NSBM" on this band, though. Plus they never said they are NSBM, did they?

If you want to know who's a genuine NSBM-band, then listen to Der Stürmer, for instance.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Whatever... you have never been to any NSBM-show apparently, or else you couldn't mix up the faggotry of a Shining-audience with the crowd showing up at a Der Stürmer or Absurd-show, for instance. Keep living in your basement with your record collection, read "Lords of Chaos" to learn something of Black Metal and Guido Knopp to learn something of NS... whatever suits you.

Thing is that there is a 600 pages book about NSBM (something you say can't exist since it makes no sense, etc.) and you have not been interviewed, because nobody gives a flying fuck for your "dissenting opinion" on that matter. Get over it!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thing is that there is a 600 pages book about NSBM (something you say can't exist since it makes no sense, etc.) and you have not been interviewed, because nobody gives a flying fuck for your "dissenting opinion" on that matter. Get over it!

Laughing

Now, I'm clearly losing my sleep over that. It was an obvious lifetime dream of mine to be in a book that a 36-yo unemployed kraut considers the be-all and end-all of his own cultural baggage.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...that a 36-yo unemployed kraut considers the be-all and end-all of his own cultural baggage.


And once again, you got it all wrong and achieved an epic fail. That happens time and again, because you can't read properly what I am writing (or worse, you can read but fail to comprehend).

I'm done with talking to you dimwit.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Consider the debate over until someone has actually read the book and can thoughtfully discuss it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IXTAB wrote:
Consider the debate over until someone has actually read the book and can thoughtfully discuss it.


That's what I am waiting for, actually... Will get my copy next week but can't read a single word. Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can always look at the pictures. Plenty of swazzies for you to get excited over.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can always look at the pictures. Plenty of swazzies for you to get excited over.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DTBRex wrote:
Aryan Terrorism is NSBM.


Come on, they're a joke band. Typical Hollywood "NS" bullshit.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NK7 wrote:
DTBRex wrote:


Thing is that there is a 600 pages book about NSBM (something you say can't exist since it makes no sense, etc.) and you have not been interviewed, because nobody gives a flying fuck for your "dissenting opinion" on that matter. Get over it!

Laughing

Now, I'm clearly losing my sleep over that. It was an obvious lifetime dream of mine to be in a book that a 36-yo unemployed kraut considers the be-all and end-all of his own cultural baggage.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nokturnal Mortum on the other hand never was, nor is, NSBM.






Seems legit.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bvr wrote:
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Seems legit.


Rolling Eyes

If you consider NM to (have) be(en) NSBM, then Burzum too is NSBM...

Oh wait, and Mayhem too. And Marduk, as well. And so on and so forth...

If you look for a Black Metal-band that is mainly concerned with NS (and related topics such as Ariosophy) lyricwise, then NM is surely not the band to be looking out for.

There was a reason why they started Aryan Terrorism as a side project back in the days.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bvr wrote:
DTBRex wrote:
Nokturnal Mortum on the other hand never was, nor is, NSBM.






Seems legit.

Clearly not NS. They're not in THE BOOK so they can not be nsbm + Amoebus says they're not so you need to stfu. Read THE BOOK instead and know better.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is a great thread, I approve!
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