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OBSCURE ABHORRENCE - Fake demos!!!
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ForgottenWoodsOrder



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:13 am    Post subject: OBSCURE ABHORRENCE - Fake demos!!! Reply with quote

Greetings

Beware of Andreas Gruna of OBBSCURE ABHORRANCE from Germany, he make FAKE MC-R copies of old demos and sell them as LIMITED EDITIONS DEMOS from the past.

I have bought NEGURA BUNGET demo 98 and it was DUBBED and he pushed his subself to proove that it was real then I have asked Negru of N.B. and he definitely said that the DEMO was FAKE!

BE CAREFUL!

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NucleArt



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the heads up. It's not that I was going to buy it, but such stuff is always good to know (of course).
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Greuel



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many years ago (6years, 9years? can't remember) there was a german shop/label whatever selling all Moonblood Rehearsals/demos declared as originals ... price wasn't cheap.
every tape was a fake. (I'm sure of that, was able to check with two orig tapes from a friend)
was is OAP? can anyone remember?


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ForgottenWoodsOrder



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes brothers, please be careful! OAP is a cheap shit! Let everyone know about it!
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NucleArt



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much did you pay for this tape - if I may ask... or in case you didn't buy it, how much was he asking?

I was going to buy some stuff from him not too long ago, but some glitch in his online store system prevented my order from going through, seems that was good luck after all!
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ForgottenWoodsOrder



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GREUEL,

I remember that, it was OAP and one other label called Fimbul Productions
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ForgottenWoodsOrder



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nuke'

You were quite lucky bro... He asked 20 Euro not much, sure I paid, then open a paypal claim and paid 13.50 USD for post to send it back. Duhh
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Mikael



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of cover the fake had?
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ForgottenWoodsOrder



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

B&W, check the pricture that I have posted.
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Mikael



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ForgottenWoodsOrder wrote:
B&W, check the pricture that I have posted.


That's the Promo 98, not demo 98. It should be B&W and includes a Sombre stamp inside, most likely numbering too, but it's a Sombre-release, who knows if all of them were numbered or even stamped.
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ForgottenWoodsOrder



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yupppp

no number, no stamp and as NEGRU said, they even didn't create and of PROMO TAPE like that!
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Mikael



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ForgottenWoodsOrder wrote:
yupppp

no number, no stamp and as NEGRU said, they even didn't create and of PROMO TAPE like that!


Well, it's obviously the promo-tape Sombre released back then. Ok, the covers should have stamp and numbering, but knowing how Sombre worked with limitations, numbering, just saying that you might bark to the wrong tree here.
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ForgottenWoodsOrder



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately I am not wrong because there was no stamp or anything else in it. And NEGRU said that there was definitely no products such as this. Any more questions?
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ForgottenWoodsOrder



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so let me be clear

There is no:

- DEMO 98
- PROMO 98 (except hand numbered SOMBRE release)
- ANY RELEASE as Called 98 except SALA MOLSKA cd

and the release that I got was a xerox covered tape without any SOMBRE STAMP, SIGNATURE on it.
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Mikael



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ForgottenWoodsOrder wrote:
And NEGRU said that there was definitely no products such as this. Any more questions?
Such item as Promo 98? Well that's surely a Sombre-release, if it was bootleg, it was done 1998 by Sombre. If this is a bootleg of that release, that I can't tell, because Sombre was notorious with fake limitations, re-cycling numbering, whatever. But, just tried to help you here.
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