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The Black Album(s)
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ADK



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First Tankard is ok, rest is forgettable.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flotsam and Jetsam after their first two albums.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forbidden - Green, unquestionably deserves a mention. Kreator and Testament were probably the best when it comes to trying different styles, nowadays I find myself listening to their 90s outputs way more often than I check their classic records.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:37 am    Post subject: Re: The Black Album(s) Reply with quote

ADK wrote:
Frozen wrote:
Megadeth's Youthanasia


"Countdown to Extinction" was their "black album".

No way, it's a solid metal album. Youthanasia and Cryptic Writings were much more obvious sell outs.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't say it's a bad album, quite the opposite. I always liked it.

But you know, more or less released the same year, videoclip with heavy rotation on MTV....there are some parallels.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hated it at first but noadays I think it's alright. The songs vary from the goddamn awful to the decent to the good. It's definitely not something I spin on a regular basis. Mostly this gets listened to in the car.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brooklyn Bastard 666 wrote:
Yet, Slayer waited till the late 90's to put out their only semi gay record - "Diabolus"...haha.

When most of the Thrash scene was SUCKING HARD, Slayer made good records.....they pretended Death Metal didn't exist and still do...but at least they didn't sell out in the early 90's.


Personally I think Slayer has sucked really hard since the early 90's. Diabolus in Musica is terrible, but so are Divine Intervention, God Hates Us All, Christ Illusion, and World Painted Blood- all for varying reasons.
Divine Intervention: "Seasons in the Abyss 2: The Shitacular Version"
Diabolus in Musica: Nu-metal and groove metal-inspired garbage.
God Hates Us All: see above.
Christ Illusion: Half-assed attempt at writing actual thrash again.
World Painted Blood: Even worse attempt at writing actual thrash again.

The last two albums were just uninspired riff after uninspired riff pasted together in Pro Tools. It was pretty clear by listening to it that they didn't actually "write songs" as much as they just showed up with some riff ideas and put it together in the studio. Shit, they even said as much in interviews. No man, to wrap up this random tangent, Slayer's a fucking embarrassment these days.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

more forgettable albums:

violence (not vio-lence anymore)- nothing to gain
nuclear assault - something wicked
exodus - force of habit

kreator - renewal is not too bad on the contrary
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But at least SLAYER never had a ballad or something - as far as I know. Everyone else has.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest I struggle to think of any band where the members are over 35 and still playing music I want to hear. nevermind these reunions. Was there one reunion that wasn't meh?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exodus Fabulous Disaster and Impact is imminent fit the bill, the first for having two good songs and the rest being mediocre shit and Impact is imminent being mid-paced groove unlike the prior album.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:42 am    Post subject: Re: The Black Album(s) Reply with quote

NK7 wrote:
Youthanasia and Cryptic Writings were much more obvious sell outs.


Even though I do love that album, I think Megadeth became a better band after Rust In Peace. What's exactly you don't like about these two?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Youthanasia is a great album. Dave managed to fuse his signature style with hard rock without sacrificing the great riffage. Something most of the bands who attempted to do the same didn't.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADK wrote:
I didn't say it's a bad album, quite the opposite. I always liked it.

But you know, more or less released the same year, videoclip with heavy rotation on MTV....there are some parallels.


indeed, it's their first album of the "modern" era. Black album is still a solid metal album, I will always be like it. say what you want about it but it brought heavy music into the homes of millions. probably boosting record sales for the rest too.

I don't think Pantera, Megadeth, Sepultura etc would have gotten so much airplay without the insane success of Metallica.

to save some scene points, all those albums are crap compared with their earlier works.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weltering in Blood wrote:
To be honest I struggle to think of any band where the members are over 35 and still playing music I want to hear. nevermind these reunions. Was there one reunion that wasn't meh?


Macabre!

although their last album was pretty bad
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