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Worthless Joke
Joined: 24 Jul 2010 Posts: 207
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:26 am Post subject: |
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Early stuff - I can listen to it once in a rare while for nostalgia. It's so cheesy, silly and jolly that I can't help but smile. Still more charm, creativity and better than most nowadays metal.
Rebel - Cool transition album. I think Thorns, this and some others really laid the foundation for a more disharmonic/unmelodic way of aking modern black metal, that many bands still rely on.
Volcano - Their worst album. It shoots of in every direction, makes no sense and most of the material sounds like filler.
Now, Diabolical -Their best album. This is where they learned to write real songs that make sense. Before it was more like ramdom riffs thrown in together. And at least half the songs are very good and catchy.
Age of Nero - A small step down from the last. But only a couple of good songs, and more filler. I understand why they took a break after this. It's the Satyricon album that shows the least progression from the last, and the smal bits of progression there were, just brought more inconsistency back in. It's their second best album. But I think Satyricon should realise that they just have to perfect the style of "Now, Diabolical". Either that or something new I hadn't thought of. |
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Mikael
Joined: 26 Jan 2008 Posts: 1597 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:33 am Post subject: |
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I must be the only one who sees Nemesis as their transition album, some stuff on it differs a lot from the first albums.
Now, Diabolical is my choice for this topic, but all of their albums has fillers. |
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vociferous
Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Posts: 170
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:22 am Post subject: |
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| I'm not a fan of any of the other black n roll albums, but Volcano is great.. especially the second half. Possessed, Mental Mercury, Black Lava. |
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Laugh At Your Corpse

Joined: 29 Apr 2010 Posts: 211 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| EARLGREYTEA wrote: | | UlvhedinGrom wrote: | | Total shit right after Nemesis. Fuck this topic. |
Basically this ...
They became a totally different band after Nemesis ... A band I no longer cared for ... |
Yes. They went from a decent black metal band, to an annoying, contrived rock n roll band. |
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speedevilucifer

Joined: 18 Jan 2011 Posts: 1165 Location: Crete
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:54 am Post subject: |
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I don't understand the words cheesy,jolly naive for their first albums etc
With the same logic,same goes for Burzum,Immortal ,Gorgoroth..
You can't zeroing everything/
Their pick is nemesis divina ,a classic,followed by the first albums.
After that they became a different band..There are so many groups,indeed,who can be and are far better in their direction and progress than satyricon. |
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Frozen

Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 599
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:19 am Post subject: |
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No it doesn't. Burzum, Immortal and Gorgoroth didn't use medieval dance music as a foundation for their respective styles. _________________ http://www.dissectionforum.dk/ |
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Hellpig
Joined: 24 Apr 2010 Posts: 213
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| Laugh At Your Corpse wrote: |
Because if you think the latter is better than Hvite Krists Dod, you are a fucking moron. Makes sense that you don't understand much. |
Never liked DMT. The Shadowthrone was the first album of theirs I bought, but the folk inspiration and crappy production never sat well with me. Hvite Krists Død is among their best songs ever though, but the rest of the album is just bland. They definitely peaked with Nemesis and Rebel IMO but I like a couple of songs from their later work as well. Rebel... got my vote! |
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Cedric
Joined: 09 Apr 2010 Posts: 416 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| Volcano is packed with amazing riffs. I'm assuming this Thorns guy had a big impact on this (unless he wasn't involved in this album), so i'm curious to to hear the albums after that. |
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NK7 banned
Joined: 07 Oct 2012 Posts: 1352 Location: Beograd, Srbija
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| obscureinfinity wrote: | If a band changes their sound knowing it will be met with more commercial appeal, that is selling out. I don't think that's really what Enslaved did but Satyricon clearly shifted to a more accessible sound with their black n' roll releases. It's ok to like a band while admitting they sold out, you know.  |
And how do you know they were aware of that it would have "more commercial appeal"? What if they realized Nemesis was the pinnacle of the subgenre and couldn't be improved any further? What if that's just the kind of music they honestly want to play as they feel it's closer to their present personal vision of black metal? This style had never been attempted before and there was no reason to think it would have made them millionaires -in fact it didn't. Spare us your "it's in antithesis with what bm is supposed to be bla blahhh" forced tryhardism if you think you're entitled to a reply. _________________ Permabanned |
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Dalen

Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Posts: 1592
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps Volcano was an attempt towards more commercial sounds, but I don't see how maintaining this kind of style for three albums in a row is a "sell out" for a band like Satyricon. I mean, seriously, I usually hear negative words about their recent albums and how they should return to older sounds. _________________ Sic transit gloria mundi |
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obscureinfinity

Joined: 05 Jan 2013 Posts: 208
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:59 am Post subject: |
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I don't like any Satyricon I've heard after The Shadowthrone but let's skip ahead to Volcano since Nemesis Divina is still a pure black metal album. Volcano has very good production, the riffs are played in a verse chorus verse manner, and the vocals are much more clear and intelligible, courtesy of voice enhancement. All ingredients for a more commercially accessible album.
Maybe they did just want to play in that style but they still sold out. They went a route that was clearly going to make them more money than their straight-forward black metal output. Why don't you stop getting so butt-hurt about this and just admit it? If you like them anyway then why does it matter? |
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obscureinfinity

Joined: 05 Jan 2013 Posts: 208
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Dalen wrote: | | Perhaps Volcano was an attempt towards more commercial sounds, but I don't see how maintaining this kind of style for three albums in a row is a "sell out" for a band like Satyricon. I mean, seriously, I usually hear negative words about their recent albums and how they should return to older sounds. |
Well yeah, from bitter curmudgeon black metal fans like me who think black n' roll is dumb. They've still sold more albums than they did in their early days because their current sound reaches a wider audience. It would make sense for them to want to continue down that path. |
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under a funeral shroom

Joined: 29 Oct 2008 Posts: 969 Location: pgh
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I think a lot of people who listen to extreme metal started doing so because normal traditionally structured rock music did not appeal to them. I know that I find probably 98% of rock music to be completely uninteresting, always have. It's only natural for people who feel similarly to not like albums that regress back to a more accessible style. |
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Worthless Joke
Joined: 24 Jul 2010 Posts: 207
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| obscureinfinity wrote: | I don't like any Satyricon I've heard after The Shadowthrone but let's skip ahead to Volcano since Nemesis Divina is still a pure black metal album. Volcano has very good production, the riffs are played in a verse chorus verse manner, and the vocals are much more clear and intelligible, courtesy of voice enhancement. All ingredients for a more commercially accessible album.
Maybe they did just want to play in that style but they still sold out. They went a route that was clearly going to make them more money than their straight-forward black metal output. Why don't you stop getting so butt-hurt about this and just admit it? If you like them anyway then why does it matter? |
You're right. It doesn't matter, because it doesn't really exist. A person who likes music, listens to it because it's good and doesn't care why the people behind the music made it that way. People who care if a band has sold out nor not, are not into the music but just want to cult. |
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NK7 banned
Joined: 07 Oct 2012 Posts: 1352 Location: Beograd, Srbija
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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| obscureinfinity wrote: |
Maybe they did just want to play in that style but they still sold out. They went a route that was clearly going to make them more money than their straight-forward black metal output. Why don't you stop getting so butt-hurt about this and just admit it? If you like them anyway then why does it matter? |
It doesn't actually, the opinion of a 20-something defender of the black metal faith is irrelevant as a matter of fact. Fact remains, it was no sell-out but natural development, it's not like they went from Nemesis Divina to King in a couple of months, there's clear progression starting with a transition album like Rebel and leading to Age of Nero in a 12-year long evolution. Anyway, I'm sure Vatra Sumpor will be eager to recommend you dozens of shitty Ukrainian demobands doing your beloved 2-riffs-under-blastbeat thing so fear not, the black flame is still burning. _________________ Permabanned |
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