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Late 90's and early 00's Modern/Avant Black Metal
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Durathma



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

awwh autistic is such a strong "word" im soo mad and depressed awwh naawh I take this forum so seriously why would you say this to me....
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grindmonkey, you now have some competition Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

who is grindmonkey? is he/she famous?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Avant Black Metal"...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess Peccatum fits the bill.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first and second albums by Solefald fits here, and they're pretty good.
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Dismal



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fleurety.

I only have Min Tid Skal Komme, but that definitely fits the bill. I know their later stuff was even more out there/weird/shit, but haven't properly taken the time to find out.
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Frozen



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The word "avant" obviously got a lot of you confused even though the OP was pretty clear. At least to me it was. Anyway, what I am looking for is "modern" Black Metal from the millennial period. There was a turn from the "primitive" expression of the second-wave to a more technical, discordant and futuristic style. The main innovator of this style of riffing would obviously be Snorre Ruch, but also a guy like Blasphemer from Mayhem.

Releases that immediately came to my mind:

Aura Noir - Deep Tracts of Hell

Darkthrone - Plaguewielder (this one can be argued)

Dødheimsgård - Satanic Art
DHG - 666 International

Hades Almighty - The Pulse of Decay

Mayhem - The Grand Declaration of War
Mayhem - Chimera
Mayhem - Ord Ad Chao

Satyricon - Rebel Extravaganza
Satyricon - Volcano
Satyricon - Now, Diabolical
Satyricon - The Age of Nero

Thorns - Thorns


These are the Norwegian releases I could come up with. I'm sure there are many more. Abigor is another example of a band that followed this direction.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the fuck has new Mayhem to do with new Satyricon for example?

Avantgarde like new Emperor, Krallice, new Sigh, Unexpect etc can fuck off. Shitheads making pseudointellectual music for prog rock wankers.

Blut Aus Nord is ok though.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both Mayhem and Satyricon abandoned the second-wave sound for a more futuristic style dominated by the discordant riffing Snorre pioneered.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juxtaposing those two bands because of "discordant riffing" is still a great overinterpretation, those bands are completely different stories.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They both took the style in their own unique directions, but the influence is there.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you guys have no idea what avant garde is. Krallice? Rock n' black Satyricon? Unexpect?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dalen wrote:
I think you guys have no idea what avant garde is. Krallice? Rock n' black Satyricon? Unexpect?


"Avant-garde represents a pushing of the boundaries of what is accepted as the norm or the status quo, primarily in the cultural realm."

Can't speak for Krallice or Unexpect, but discordant riffing was NOT the norm before these bands made it popular.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avant-garde was a term used for all the Norwegian black metal bands who tried something different, that actually includes some prog metal ones too. You can find many such ingredients in other bands as well, but their overall feeling is different. DSO is definitely not an avant-garde band for example, even though they were largely influenced by Ved Buens Ende. Late Satyricon, too, are not avant-garde, I am actually having trouble accepting even Blut Aus Nord under that term.
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