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dalecooper



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:45 am    Post subject: Good printers for vinyl? Reply with quote

For those of you who have or had labels, who are you using for vinyl these days? I'm prepping to do some seven inches this fall and am curious who has the best pricing, who has good turnaround time and service, etc. I got a quote from A to Z that is decent but I had expected a couple hundred dollars less, based on information from an acquaintance of mine; but maybe he just misled me...

I have heard a couple horror stories about Pirates Press recently. Any experiences with them?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pirates Press uses GZ to print their vinyl. Avoid them if you want quality vinyl.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try Brooklyn Phono:

http://brooklynphono.com/

I've used them for Antichrist and Sonic Ritual 7-inches and the turnaround time has been lightening fast, great communication (only two people answer the e-mails but they are super on-point) and reasonable prices. I recommend using their own labels instead of, say, I Love Imprint, as they don't really fit their machines. Be a little careful with color vinyl, though! I ordered purple and yellow vinyl made for Sonic Ritual but some of the yellow vinyl aren't exactly the same color yellow; some are opaque and some are a bit transparent, haha. They also made some extra and cut me a bit of a deal in return so whatever. I'm not complaining (I'm also not crazy about color vinyl) but if you're someone who is really strict about color, then you should really let them know.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rainbo Records and Erika have both produced great quality vinyl for me in the past:

http://rainborecords.com/

http://erikarecords.com/
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Pirates Press uses GZ to print their vinyl. Avoid them if you want quality vinyl.


I'm guessing that about 70% of the records pressed these days are pressed through GZ. Most are good quality in terms of sound and thickness of vinyl, etc. GZ's inhouse mastering house uses DMM (Direct Metal Mastering) which results in less volume loss and overall brighter sound. Some people complain that it's too loud and that it loses some nuances that you can get from the traditional lacquer mastering technique.

In the end what matters is whether you like the sound or not. It's subjective no matter how audiophile nerd you want to get with it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm working with Palomino for the Wanderlust LP. They're not doing the actual pressing in-house (just the lacquers, plating, and labels) since they're still looking for a replacement boiler after the accident earlier this year. Their prices are good for a short run, and communication's been good so far.

http://www.dosado.com/pressinghome.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NWN PROD wrote:
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Pirates Press uses GZ to print their vinyl. Avoid them if you want quality vinyl.


I'm guessing that about 70% of the records pressed these days are pressed through GZ. Most are good quality in terms of sound and thickness of vinyl, etc. GZ's inhouse mastering house uses DMM (Direct Metal Mastering) which results in less volume loss and overall brighter sound. Some people complain that it's too loud and that it loses some nuances that you can get from the traditional lacquer mastering technique.

In the end what matters is whether you like the sound or not. It's subjective no matter how audiophile nerd you want to get with it.


This is actually the first I ever heard of this process, so Im googling furiously.
The bottom line though, is the question of how does it sound for this type of music rather than whatever Jazz crap recorded on an infinite budget?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orpheus wrote:
NWN PROD wrote:
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Pirates Press uses GZ to print their vinyl. Avoid them if you want quality vinyl.


I'm guessing that about 70% of the records pressed these days are pressed through GZ. Most are good quality in terms of sound and thickness of vinyl, etc. GZ's inhouse mastering house uses DMM (Direct Metal Mastering) which results in less volume loss and overall brighter sound. Some people complain that it's too loud and that it loses some nuances that you can get from the traditional lacquer mastering technique.

In the end what matters is whether you like the sound or not. It's subjective no matter how audiophile nerd you want to get with it.


This is actually the first I ever heard of this process, so Im googling furiously.
The bottom line though, is the question of how does it sound for this type of music rather than whatever Jazz crap recorded on an infinite budget?


GO through your record collection. If you have bought anything in the past 5 years chances are at least one thing you've picked up new has been pressed through pirates press/GZ.

United seems cheap, but they're crazy about copyright and samples. I've heard both great and okay things about them. Gottagroove in detroit is a new plant, though i have no idea who has used them to judge quality though. I think maybe some nunslaughter records, but HHR releases seem to be pressed by pirates press/gz judging by their matrixes when i last checked some randomly.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta Groove is in Cleveland and decent. I've done a few 7"s with them. They were the best price at the time.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GHOAT wrote:
Gotta Groove is in Cleveland and decent. I've done a few 7"s with them. They were the best price at the time.


Thanks, that's somebody that Dark Descent Matt recommended too.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gottagroove did the Napalm Death/Converge and Decrepitaph/Eternal Solstice split 7"es. The Detroit plant is called Archer but I don't have any Metal-related pressings from there. If you have records by Lo Dubs, they press all their releases there.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta Groove did a great job for the Bad Joke 7 inch, also Shitfuckers first ep was done through them, that was also good quality.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta Groove is kind of expensive and takes a long time to deliver.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed that it is expensive IMO as well, however was a good overall product.
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