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Best 80's Bathory record?
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Best Bathory record?
Bathory
12%
 12%  [ 20 ]
The Return......
25%
 25%  [ 41 ]
Under The Sign Of The Black Mark
37%
 37%  [ 59 ]
Blood Fire Death
24%
 24%  [ 38 ]
Total Votes : 158

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blacknuclearhellstorm wrote:
Neither the production, the songwriting or the atmosphere on "The Return" is as good as on any of the other three albums imo...


Those are the reasons why I worship that album. The record is evil!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCPQYikBvRU


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blacknuclearhellstorm wrote:
Neither the production, the songwriting or the atmosphere on "The Return" is as good as on any of the other three albums imo...


None of the three first has good songwriting (but the fourth is trying a bit on certain songs).
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blood on ice

Viking era Bathory > bm era Bathory
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Giorgio A. Tsoukalos wrote:
Blood on ice

Viking era Bathory > bm era Bathory


I am so sorry for you. I don't discriminate deaf people. But what a horrible life you must have!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blacknuclearhellstorm wrote:
Neither the production, the songwriting or the atmosphere on "The Return" is as good as on any of the other three albums imo...


I disagree completely, the atmosphere on The Return... fucking oozes darkness and evil way more than ANY other album EVER. The songs are memorable as hell to me as well, definitely more-so than any of the other early Bathory releases.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carlzilla wrote:
blacknuclearhellstorm wrote:
Neither the production, the songwriting or the atmosphere on "The Return" is as good as on any of the other three albums imo...


I disagree completely, the atmosphere on The Return... fucking oozes darkness and evil way more than ANY other album EVER. The songs are memorable as hell to me as well, definitely more-so than any of the other early Bathory releases.


This guy knows what he's talking about!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a person's preference between the first four Bathory albums is really a strong indicator as to what style of black metal that person predominately likes.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eighthplague wrote:
I think a person's preference between the first four Bathory albums is really a strong indicator as to what style of black metal that person predominately likes.


I can definitely see that.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eighthplague wrote:
I think a person's preference between the first four Bathory albums is really a strong indicator as to what style of black metal that person predominately likes.


This.

The Return is obviously an album loved by people who favor sinister atmosphere over songwriting or musicianship in black metal

It's a mediocre heavy metal album but the atmosphere makes it a really fucking evil black metal album.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

morbiddeceiver wrote:
Those are the reasons why I worship that album. The record is evil!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCPQYikBvRU


That song is absolute perfection.

I suspect there's a Discharge influence on The Return -that droning/surging feeling on the guitars in many songs.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

glwdrk wrote:
Giorgio A. Tsoukalos wrote:
Blood on ice

Viking era Bathory > bm era Bathory


I am so sorry for you. I don't discriminate deaf people. But what a horrible life you must have!


Agreed. Blood on Ice is from far the worst Bathory album. Even Requiem, Octagon and Destroyer of Worlds are better than Blood on Ice.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorm wrote:
Blood on Ice is from far the worst Bathory album. Even Requiem, Octagon and Destroyer of Worlds are better than Blood on Ice.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's really no reason why anyone should like Viking era Bathory more than Bm Bathory. It's ugly.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, of course, but: Octagon, Requiem & Destroyer of Worlds = Garbage T(h)rash Bathory, not Black Metal Bathory.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Destroyer of World isn't that bad. However, even if it was very hard to choose, I voted for BFD because the album is far more violent than the previous ones.
UtSotBM is a close second, especially because it contains two of the best BM songs ever, maybe the best ones outside DMDS, "Enter the Eternal Fire" and above all "Call from the Grave".
The first record is entertaining in a way. This teenage Satanic venomesque album did it better than VENOM itself IMO. Probably because it was driven by passion and not search of fame.

The Return is really dark, but the production drowns the song a bit.
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