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should black metal bands worry about the (nazi) past
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things are strange here.
Covenant rape case I had forgotten.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoldenBull wrote:
So she calls out Demoniac or whoever for having a song called "Niggerslut."

With a pretty quick google search I found an interview in which she explains that David Allan Coe is one of her favorite artists.

A guy who has a song called "Niggerfucker."

Ok I give up. I have no idea what the hell is going on...


Nobody who's a fan of David Allen Coe expects political correctness from him. On the other hand, she knows half of her readers are easily offended, ex-punk thinwimps that need lots of hugs and togetherness, so she panders to them. It's her lib-punk scenester fans' fault for not calling her out on the same BS she calls bands out on.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who the hell is Kim Kelly?!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:31 pm    Post subject: Re: should black metal bands worry about the (nazi) past Reply with quote

harmless wrote:
it seems bands are being "confronted" on matters dealing with all things ns.

mortiis for his black metal is for white people.
nachtmystium for their ties with resistance records.
inquisition and the (other band's merch) guy with the chest tattoo.
demoniac for their songtitles and choruses.

should ns and bm stay together or has the time come to cut the ties?


Seems as if the bands are only being confronted by the "mainstream" scene. At least for Inquisition. Once they got on tour with Behemoth, the whole nazi thing came out from some guy saying they were nazis.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolfram wrote:
Who the hell is Kim Kelly?!


No idea, but the name seems to come up from time to time on this forum. I don't think I care to find out. But who ever she is, she should be happy she is an obsession of so many people Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At first I was surprised they actually printed that Dragonforce "interview" because it's just not actually well written....

Then I read this "article": http://noisey.vice.com/blog/why-are-black-metal-fans-such-elitist-assholes

I mean fuck, really?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

salted wrote:
As a friend of mine said recently: Neoliberals make fascists look like puppies.


Your friend is dead on.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freaks and Geeks

Kim Kelly
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyway, here's what this was really about:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolfram wrote:
Who the hell is Kim Kelly?!


Same here
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She is Tipper Gore's bastard daughter.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

holy ghost wrote:
At first I was surprised they actually printed that Dragonforce "interview" because it's just not actually well written....

Then I read this "article": http://noisey.vice.com/blog/why-are-black-metal-fans-such-elitist-assholes

I mean fuck, really?


"A few months ago, I wandered into a bar in Brooklyn."

Ok, no, not gonna read this. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are correct, the article is worthless garbage.

"what I found so odd about the black metal version of this paradigm was the fact that the people who seemed most embittered about the idea of their musical culture getting co-opted were grown adults with (presumably) wives, mortgages and real problems."

I don't understand the significance of this contradictory shite. I can't tell if the author is writing about image, music or social niches. I wonder if it would be more acceptable to be bitter about a secret secluded beach that suddenly becomes exposed, popularized and polluted?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes

Even with my "band" being one that relatively few folk care about, it's quite amazing how much flack I have received for merely having the word White in the band name (White Medal), even though it's clearly not an NSBM band. The main questions I always get asked in interviews are centered around this and it often seems that the questions that come before or after that are merely "filler"... including an interview request from one of the writers mentioned in this thread. Guess which...

Aside from how ludicrous the whole thing may seem, I can't help but wondering, with this whole "scandal", what the final conclusion will be... what do "journalists" such as this want to happen? Presuming that they have actually thought that far; is exposing these NS-types enough or do they need/want to take it further? End careers, stop distribution of material, censor interviews, get band members lives ruined etc... What exactly do they want? Black Metal with no hate? They have a genre for that, Christian Metal; but then again they hate Christians... interesting how that is acceptable.

If we take no sides and assume a neutral position as an outsider looking in; who will "win" or will it just phase out (I am guessing the latter). Will every so called "Nazi" BM band be "exposed", forced to shut down or even prosecuted (presumably this is what it's going towards?). Each Hate Forest clone then replaced with a soulless Bosse De Nage type USBM clone? And if so, given that apparently even "Transylvanian Hunger" is a NS record, will it and should it still even be called Black Metal, assuming that Black Metal has been a "Nazi genre" since the beginning?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So she was molested by a band called Dragonforce when she was 16...so what? She should get over it and move on.
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